Is it actually justifiable to be Islamophobic?

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  1. yDraigGoch

    yDraigGoch Member

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    "Ok, again I ask for you to show me the Christians cutting off the head of non believers. Show me Christians gang raping 12 year old girls. Show me Christians slaughtering school children for going to a secular school."

    This is the usual claptrap from people who blame an entire religion for the acts of a minority of fanatics;

    Islam is now 1400 years old. So, let's see what Christians were doing at 1400 years.

    They tied people to wooden stakes, piled up straw and wood, and set them on fire to die screaming in agony.

    They tied people to tables with big wheels at the end, and literally tore their shoulders apart.

    They strapped people to benches, and poured melted lead down their throats.

    They pulled out fingernails and toenails. Then they cut off the fingers and toes

    They stripped, flogged, THEN the raped women. WOW! Is that a Christian frat party??

    They tied people to large horses, then tore them limb from limb.

    They opened people's bellies, and disemboweled them while they were still alive.

    At 1400 years, the Muslims are behaving a LOT better than the so called Christians were at 1400. Hopefully, they will still be better at 2000 years.

    The root cause of all this suffering is the entire Abrahimic cult of the Yahweh god; the Jews, the Christians and the Mohammedans. It is a cult of rape, torture, genocide, murder, hate, discrimination and every other disgusting trait that ugly men want to blame on a god. The Bible is full of this. Read Leviticus for a REAL eye opener. the land of Canaan is today's Palestine. Read and see how this god ordered it's "chosen people" to murder of women and children. In another case, the god told the men to take the women of the murdered men, and "do with them as you wish".

    As long as superstition exists, criminals will have an excuse to do all the ugly things that decent people reject.
     
  2. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^ a truth the bigots don't want to address
     
  3. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    I guess the anti christian bigots are not quite ready to claim the U.S. is an example of a nation or army going to war in the name of Christ. If they did that, they would lose credibility when they say America is not a Christina nation.
     
  4. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Another poster gave the obvious example of the spanish empire. I could add to that the even more obvious examples of the christian armies and countries behind the crusades. A less obvious example would the the lion of the north, our own Gustavus Adolphus, who fought in God's name against the papists in the thirty years war. There's literally countless examples of armies and countries who fought in the name of christ and christendom.
     
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    are you actually comparing Muslims to drug cartels?
     
  6. MickSpeed

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    Problem is "the very worst examples" don't seem to be in the minority.
     
  7. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    No that was you labeling the drug cartels as christian
     
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    But Christian doctrine doesn't justify such fighting. They were in spite of Christian doctrine. While the Islamic Caliphates as they existed from 632 until the 1920s and the Caliphate recently established, are all according to Islamic doctrine.
     
  9. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like you are a hate filled racist for not embracing the diverse cultural values inherent in penetrating a nine year old.
     
  10. Daggdag

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    The bible orders gays, and anyone else who breaks laws on sexual morality to be stoned to death.

    It even orders that a woman who is raped within a city be killed because the only reason she was raped is that she did not scream for help, on the logic that in a city, if she had screamed, someone would have saved her, and since she didn't scream, she wanted to be raped and is an adultress.
     
  11. dixon76710

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    Christians have the New Testament. And even though they do, I would agree with you to some extent, IF we had a current problem with Christians stoning the immoral. We don't. We do have current issues with Muslims who believe they must "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until religion should only be for Allah"
     
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    I have known a few nutjobs who think that the bible's moral laws should be enforced, such as the Westbury Babtist Church, who did call for homosexual to be outlawed and punished by death.

    But, you are right, most Christians do not follow that, and thats the point. Most Muslims do not follow the Qurans commands to kill infidels and immoral people as well, but people like you hold Muslims accountable for anything bad in the Quran, even if they do not follow it themselves, but you do not hold Christian to that same standard.
     
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    Lol thank you. Someone knows what they're talking about.
     
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    Nah mate don't try he won't listen.
     
  15. Donald Polish

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    I don't agree. To be Islamophobic is to be ignorant. Ask yourself what do you know about Islam? Nothing. Why do our Government spent a huge amount of money for learning this world religion? Do you know how many centres of islamic studies do exist in the USA?
     
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    HailVictory Banned at Members Request

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    *gasp* the law says no, so people can't do that! Mate, you know how many loopholes the Christians made up. When I studied this at college I learned one particular loophole they made up. The Bible said, thou shalt not stab another somewhere or the other, but an inventive Brother was like, well we can still beat people with maces. There's tons more examples but it's late at night for me so...
     
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    No, some flake was comparing Christians to drug cartels. I'm just telling you that Islam is satanic.
     
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    To excuse or accept Islam is beyond ignorant.
     
  19. dixon76710

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    And the Westboro Baptist Church is pretty much limited to one family because nothing in the bible supports their views that are in direct contradiction with it. Hard to attract converts.

    They don't follow that because when Jesus, confronted with an immoral adulteress about to be stoned said,
    "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Because Christians have the New testament that tells them,

    Romans 10
    4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

    Romans 7
    6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

    2 Corinthians 3
    13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

    Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

    23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

    Stoning for immorality simply isn't a part of religious doctrine that guides Christian behavior. Stories about the past that have no relevance today
     
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    Oh really? And you base this on what, exactly?
     
  21. Tahuyaman

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    Based on reality.
     
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    Which verse in the Quran said that? I think you are exxagarating and making up claims. Show some proof to back up your assertions.
     
  23. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Christian doctrine eh? Well, you tell that to pope Urban II.

    "Let this then be your war-cry in combats, because this word is given to you by God. When an armed attack is made upon the enemy, let this one cry be raised by all the soldiers of God: It is the will of God! It is the will of God!
    "
     
  24. CJtheModerate

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    Qur'an 5:51 - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
     
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    I thought it said to take them as friends in a deceitful way.
     

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