What has God done for the inhabitants of this planet

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  1. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    No, Im not asking if God exists...I'm simply asking, taking into consideration all the different religions of the planet, what has he done for the people.....my answer....nothing....so isn't religion just a big con....I think so....everyone goes to church on sunday....sunday christians....some of us just go at easter and Christmas....twice a year christians...then there are those of us that go to weddings and funerals and listen intently to the conducting of the service....so what has God done for you.....
    Dont forget to say grace but still hate your neighbour.....
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Population Control.


    Go forth and prosper....then kill each other at my bidding
     
  3. mister magoo

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    You mean by letting us kill each other off for centuries.....
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No....I mean by letting us do so in it's name. I guess it got tired of doing it by itself and recruited its creations to join the party.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    It also encouraged its acolytes to ignore the big problems and focus on trivialities :)
     
  6. JOJO50

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    God, (Jehovah, Exo. 6:3), gave us a chance to lie forever through his son Jesus ,(John 3:16,17). that's the greates give of all, considering MANY believe once we die, that's it. Or we come back as something or someone else. peace
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The god of the Bible is AT BEST an absentee landlord. It watches us from afar and waits to judge us. The "Free Will" we're granted was never free if it was there by divine command.
     
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    ...And many have taken up the cause. ;)
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's say this is all true. Eh - so what ? How did it help humanity in the here and now by dying on the Cross ? All that gives us is eternal life afterwards. But Jesus' death on the cross changed NOTHING on a day to day basis. All morals and laws that existed before Jesus and after are pretty much the same. There is nothing Jesus did to improve/worsen life on Earth to that extent. Name me one culture that flourished before, during, and after Jesus that embraced immorality. You can't. No society that encourages immorality would have survived - as those that did are no longer.

    But what's worse for Christians is the fact that Jesus (via the Trinity) is the author of the Old Testament who commanded slavery, rape, and genocide of non-Jews.
     
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    Why do believers get to "lie" forever? when will they stop lying?
     
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    Since Christ told us that he personified Truth in 32AD, we must recognize that Reality, past, present, and the future to come is the father of Truth, and Truth is the image of Reality, per se.

    This of course answers your question nicely, that Reality is all we have.
    Reality nurtures and even serves us, if we understand how to use its laws to our advantage.
    Reality is one and the same for us all, so God is one.
    Truth is the mediator between Reality and the mind of men.

    Hence, this god presents the opportunity for us to live and survive, and experience life, itself.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The reality is that we all die, regardless.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Reality is the big problem we need focus on.
     
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    Yes, the reality is what is, to include pre-marital sex called rape so often.
    Slavery still exists and is one of the twelve possible forms of economic employment, (India still uses it in its cast system tired to the serfdom that exists).

    Bur what Christ offered us was the "way" to live life fully by recognizing Truth as the image of god.
    Truth, like Modern Science shows, can heal us and produce a life style that is 21st century, too.
     
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    Channe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What exactly does any of these mean ? It's so vague and non-concrete that it could apply to anything or nothing.

    "This potion offers us a way to live life fully by recognizing it's abilities as all healing. This potion can heal us and produce a life that is ....."
     
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    Here we go again..? Merry Christmas my brother!
     
  15. One Mind

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    You see, God was bored. So he created the universe, and in that universe he created life, and then he decided to create a special life form which he could inhabit and experience his universe. With physical senses, but also with fear and suffering, for you need some good to go with the bad, in order to appreciate the good. And he has been seeing his universe, just here on earth through billions of people over the ages. So, this is God experiencing his creation. Of course if you knew you were god, the hitch would be up, so he made it so he didn't know he was the person. And then he turned this deal into something like a school. He would keep coming back in each person, until that person realized he was god, and then that fragment would go back into himself. And he will continue to do this until he gets enough of it. He might take a break then, and create himself another universe and do it all over again. For even god doesn't like being bored. Now, satisfied?
     
  16. mister magoo

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    So I'm God...thats why the world is in such a mess...we cant blame God...its all my fault.....maybe I should pray more to God...or is that to myself...or maybe the guy next door...is he God....gimme a break....
     
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    That is right. You are god, pretending that he isn't. For god gets bored and he plays these games with himself. So, when horrible things happen, he is doing it to himself.

    BTW, this is basically the hindu version. Not like I pulled it out of my ass. LOL

    Of course, if you want to believe you are not god, and a free agent, and unless you do as you are told, your balls will fry in an eternal hell, be my guest.

    Or if you want to believe there is no god, and at your death its nothingness, and you life is meaningless, be my guest.

    For me, I am digging being god, at least a fragment of him, in this body. No worries for me. For in the end, everything will be perfectly fine. But since I know what suffering feels like, I won't impose it upon others. It might be god doing it to himself but it still hurts, so I will forego it.
     
  18. mister magoo

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    Clear as mud...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozsmSlvGHv4
     
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    I take it you meant to say "live", not "lie". Or perhaps you didn't?

    Anyway, fascinating that you think your own personal immortality is more important than anything.
     
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    I could not view it for some reason. Said it wasn't available for my country. What else ya got?

    This version came from Alan Watts, who taught Buddhism and Hinduism once upon a time. He has lots of videos on you tube.

    I don't recall if it came from the Bhagavad Gita or the Upanishads. So, it is clear, unless you want to muddy it up. You are in over your head here. Bow out gracefully. I am well schooled in all religions, Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism, Hinduism. I forgot more than you will ever know. :) Which is easy since I am 70 years old. If you get silly, I won't respond.

    Look up Tat vsam asi.(Sanskrit) Thou art That. That being god. Hinduism.

    All I see with you is just another angry atheist. But one who doesn't really know that much about religion.
     
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    God created flees and head lice! :grin:
     
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    If one cannot prove the existence of God then what is the point of asking what has God done for the inhabitants of this planet? Sounds like an open invitation for speculation.
     
  23. JOJO50

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    But man did right? :blankstare: so I guess Jesus is to blame for human acting like nuts and making life hard for themselves and each other right? Sadly you like many blame NOT the ones who can ACTUALLY makes things better, IF... they really wanted to... we as a people and ALL governments! and “so what?”... obviously that means nothing to you, Live to see the end. Also there's someone else who has the power to cause mankind to act the way they do ,(Rev.12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time). and Jesus didn't cause ANYTHING, especially “rape”.

    I guess the rapist say... “I didn't want to force her to have sex, but “god” made me do it”. Something is wrong with anyone who can't blame mankind for their OWN wicked actions. Also there was NEVER a killing of people based on race. It was based on those nations going against Jehovah's people. or those living fowled ,like MANY do today. And whatever Jesus do!... it wasn't “via” a trinity", because scriptures shows Jesus NEVER taught a trinity. Man did by means a lying demon ,(2Cor. 11:13-15), who can fool and have many fooling others. which is why MANY believe his lies against Jehovah God and Jesus And I understand you as with many hated the killing of people back in the days of old. Sadly though, it's going to happen again....:hmm:

    Through Jesus ,(Rev. 6:14-17 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains. And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb. For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand)? I'm NOT trying to be a part of this group I hope MANY make sure they're not either as Jesus said...” And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all”,(Luke 17:26,27). peace :smile:

     
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    If you feel a believer is “lying”, even when they post scriptures. Then maybe you may want to take that up with Jehovah God ,(Exo. 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them), as Jesus said, the words he speaks is his Father's words ,(John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak). If lying mean some is making up something, then how can we be lying if we're proving someone else said it? Also as “believer lies”, so does an unbeliever. We ALL are imperfect people, No one is immune to satan command. And there's NOWHERE in the bible where Jehovah said he lies lying, in fact... he doesn't!, (Pro. 6:16,17 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him. A proud look, a lying tongue...). Nothing I said here was a lie, even if MANY refuse to believe. :blankstare: And just because one refuse to believe, doesn't make what the other is saying, a lie. :hmm: peace


     
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    YOU are the one claiming they have a right to lie.

    SEE bolded blue in your post above.
     

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