German anti-Muslim protesters rally despite Merkel plea

Aw go easy on him.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

you find something funny?

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they sure haven't tried civil disobedience and non-violent protest.

 

In these parts of the world? That would amount to die for not much. Remember, dictators in power do not have to worry about their degree of popularity for the next elections.

 

so they never tried,

and they certainly never tried in Western nations

 

Like I wrote, Occidental muslim terrorism is a relatively recent phenomenon. And the muslim community is much divided itself - in my part of town, there ere two mosques almost side by side, each one proposing a different kind of Islam.

In their own countries, muslims are often stuck between a rock and a hard place; The only answer to their dictators is religion. And this was largely caused by us, the occident, when we favored some of their dictators or toppled their secular, elected representatives like Mossadegh.

Besides, the day the muslims will have caused as much destruction and destabilization in the West as we did in the ME, then we'll talk.

 

That's because massive Muslim immigration is recent. Both that and US foreign policy were set up by Jews.

Muslims have been trying to invade Europe for over a thousand years. They took Constantinople and Andalusia.

Further, people can rebuild destruction. People can't return from genocide.

 

Sometimes I think the wars in the ME were set up to justify European invasions.

"Oh look what you did, you deserve to be replaced."

 

Tell that to the Europeans who were slaved or killed by the Barbary pirates, or the Armenians.

Sometimes some personal responsibility needs to come into the picture.

 

Yeah, let us fight to avenge the victims of Barbary pirates!

 

I was just pointing out that terrorism and islam have gone hand in hand.

Want an earlier example? Most Caliphs died due to muslim assasins(terrorists).

 

And don't you think Sharia law, that promoted Slavery, help enable those Muslim Pirates?

 

Was it the same Sharia laws that forced us to buy these slaves?

 

Lol, in regards to the Barbary pirates, that was just business. But, of course, any Muslim action must be Islamic.

 

Was sex slaving European girls business? How about castrating Negroes?

 

Yes and yes.

 

But a lot of Christians did. It's doubtful that there are many "Islamo-fascists" in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqzmE2OB0bE

 

It goes without saying that cartoons - no matter how offensive - can never justify the kinds of criminal acts we witnessed in Paris. The freedom to offend is essential to free speech. That must include the freedom to offend religious belief. One of the main reasons why Western societies have progressed as opposed to stagnated, is that we have relished in our right to challenge deeply entrenched views. This right is essential to free speech. Boy, did I laugh at Monty Python's Life Of Brian.

However, there are limits. Freedom of unconditional expression is negated by the limits democracy places upon it. To paraphrase Isiah Berlin, “One has the right to move ones fist in the direction of my nose, but that right ends at the point at which the fist in question makes contact with it.” Did Charlie Hebdo cross the line? Yes, I think they did.

The notion that people under the headline banner of "satire", have the unlimited freedom to publish whatever they like is misguided and wrong. That's not to say that I think its right that Charlie Hebdo should have prevented from publishing their cartoons by law. That would have been wrong too. To stop them by bullets is beyond any mitigation.

But that doesn’t make the unfortunate deceased heroes, and President Hollande was wrong to characterize them as such. Being murdered does not make you a hero. And being offensive is not necessarily noble. People who are persistently and vociferously offensive are often neither noble nor well-motivated. Much of Charlie Hebdo‘s taunting of Muslims was really unpleasant. That they also had Christian and other targets did not make this any better

The media in the UK have attempted to portray Charlie Hebdo's "satire" as akin to that of Private Eye. It's not. Unlike Private Eye, Hebdo has a much nastier edge. It is clear to me that Charlie Hebdo were motivated by a visceral hatred of Islam and their cartoons were no more acceptable than had they published depictions of Jews as hooked-nosed money lenders.

 

They did both. And it was their right to do so because of freedom of speech and in accordance with French laws on the book. Satire and irreverence is permitted in France. They do have anti-libel laws, but it would be for Mohamed himself to seek reparation, not some third party/follower. Charlie Hebdo was sued once by muslim and they won, so the law is on Charlie Hebdo side in this. Don't like it? Well, votye for someone to change the law in the next election. That is what civilized people do.