People's Republic of Donetsk embassy in Helsinki

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  1. Nikolnik

    Nikolnik New Member

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    So that reason Turkish presidents said "We even presented two lists. One of them had the names of about 100 people who were punished for meeting with Crimean Tatar leader Mustafa Jemilev. The other had the names of those who have gone missing, who have been murdered, and those who have been assaulted or threatened," Cavusoglu said.
    Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/1032330-turkey-putin-has-not-fulfilled-one-promise-given-to-crimean-tatars.html"

    Or you maybe forgot about killed Reshat Ametov? http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/18/crimea-disappeared-man-found-killed
     
  2. vis

    vis Well-Known Member

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    Of course, you can believe whatever you want. But it does not mean that whatever you believe is true :)
     
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    1 killed person does not mean cleansing. In Donbass much more people were killed by Ukranian Army.
     
  4. Nikolnik

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  5. vis

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    8000 is just 3% of all the tatars living in Crimea. Not too much. Yet, they left themselves, there is no war in Crimea and noone force them to move. So this is not a cleansing. Another side of the coin is actually how much you can trust to all these numbers.
     
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    The only option is a referendum about independence and then dividing the country along ethnic lines. In harmony with the public opinion of the people living there, not those living in Kremlin or Kiev. The same solution worked great in Kosovo and is really the only just way to settle separatist disputes.
     
  7. Nikolnik

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    So,you really think that eigth thousands fleeing people from political persecution it's normal?
     
  8. vis

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    I think it is normal. I would not assume that all people in Crimea would like to be part of Russia. Much more people are escaping now from Donbass to Russia. Quite strange that people escape from the war area to Russia which as you say attacks Donbass.
     
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    I might tell you that I live in Antarctica watching Martian troops fighting the Third Reich descendants. Would it prove that I am informed about the situation in Antarctica?

    What made you think, sir, that I am not well-informed?

    May I kindly thank you for perfectly proving my point? Well-done, lad. Plus one on the list of haters. It's an amusement to watch you talk.

    To my regret, I am not capable of reading in Russian, so I should rely on your words which I definitely could not do, for I have no grounds to do that.
    But let me ask you something... Do you want to say that there are no such groups in the Ukrainian part of the Internet?

    Sir, are you sure that message was for me?

    I would appreciate some links proving current ethnic cleasing. In English preferably, if it's not too much to ask for.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no need to recognize make-believe states.
     
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    What Stalin did was a partial cleansing of "undesirables", ethnically or intellectually "unreliable" and "unwanted " by different reasons people. Stalin killed more Russians, then any other single group of people. Now, in our "democratic" period of Russian history, thousands fled from Donbas to Russia. All because NATO and EU wanted Ukraine.
     
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    Can you explain to me,how this great solution work in Kosovo and Metohia?
     
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    Hmmm . Let me think ......

    The misguided content of your post might have had something to do with it :lol:
     
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    The last thing in the world Russia wants is any kind of solution to this issue by any monitored referendum. Keeping Ukraine politically and economically destabilised achieves Russias goal of having no EU or NATO presence there. It achieves this without need for outright invasion and the international consequences that would have to be borne by Russia were it to do so. The Ukraine its right to self determination and national integrity being the primary casualty of this policy sadly. Expect Russia to keep this pot boiling for years to come :(
     
  15. Nikolnik

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    There is a comic situation, when we all can see in Donbass people from russia with russian flags on russian tanks using russian weapons which shouts "russia" to join to russia, but this is attack by nato. Turn off Dmitriy-Kisilev-TV and turn on common sense.
     
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    Turn on common sense? :lol:

    We're looking into the abyss, Nikolnik. They've gone completely insane. They can't get enough of the war hysteria and propaganda that the warmongers in the Kremlin are feeding them. We saw this same insanity back in 2008 when Vlad the Invader launched his revanchist war of aggression against Georgia.

    It's ugly and it's creepy.
     
  17. Pronin24

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    Back to the topic. Is not it nice that Donetsk People's Republic open an embassy in Helsinki? Poroshekno with his war mongering, revanchist attitude could not kill this young Novorussian Republic. This is a big progress in my view.
     
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    Yes because the neutral UN observers are out to get Putin just like the vast majority of the international community, NGO's and the press of the free world. :roll:
     
  19. vis

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    You know, I think there are neither neutral observers, nor free press anywhere. Neither in Russia, nor in in the US, or EU. You may believe only to what you see with your own eyes. The rest is just manipulation. Have a nice weekend! :)
     
  20. Nikolnik

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    You can make blablablabla about new young republic from "Location: Virginia, USA" as much time as you can. If you support this bullsh~, you can emigrate to "young Novorussian Republic", with gun buy any flat or somebody house for free and live long live, you can invite "rebels", which will teach your kids drinking tincture of hawthorn or make injection of crocodile.
     
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    I don't think opening an embassy in Helsinki is a good idea. It only validates Russia's invasion of Ukraine and sets a precedent for other nations of acceptance after illegal land grabs. Poroshekno and the rest of Ukraine are fighting a war to keep their nation intact. This is the same as if Mexico would try to annex Texas. No one would take the invasion sitting down and war would occur from it. I think instead of building an embassy we need to aid Ukraine in any way they can to restore their nation and bring peace back to their citizens.
     
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    This is off the topic. Embassy of a young nation of Donbass! This sounds intimidating, is not it? Novorussia is coming. I was in Kharkov, this is a Russian speaking city. Do you speak Russian or you prefer "mova"? Duzhe pohano... We know you are using coal from Russia to stay warm in winter.
     
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    Nation begins on it's own culture, jail slang, drink alcohol, take drugs and praying to russian empire which only exists on Kisilev-TV and dreaming about USSR is also good and nice cultrue, but it's not culture of majority. So, now I'm speaking in English, where I can get immediately British or American passport? We are all englishmen, lol.
     
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    Oh, I see, you are probably not in Ukraine at all. Some pretend to be from Kazakhstan, but actually they are from Israel. This is duzhe pohano...
     
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    #SAVEDUMBASSPEOPLEFROMUKRAINIA NARMY #JUNTAISMOBINGCIVILIANPEOPLE #PUTININVADEUS #PUTINSAVEUSFROMUKRAINIANS

    ....and... (from the area near Donetsk center)

    [video=youtube;LeeKv8A22VI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeeKv8A22VI[/video]
    [video=youtube_share;Ld7GOyuqToE]http://youtu.be/Ld7GOyuqToE[/video]

    Oh... #ITSCIVILIANREBELS #ITSLIEOFUKRAINIANPROPAGANDAWE RECORDEDSOMEVIDEOSWITHSPECIALI STS
     

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