Jeb Bush is our future president?

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  1. old dog

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    I was one of those rightwingers. The GOP leadership has finally crossed a line for me. The ink on Boehner and McConnels campaign lies
    was not even dry before they folded their tents and showed their true colors; their fight is against other Republicans not the Democrats. They have rigged the primaries and "reformed" campaign finance via the Cromnibus to crush the Tea Party. Their actions on amnesty are either idiotic or conspiratorial. I have seen the enemy and they are us.
     
  2. Gorn Captain

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    Maybe you are....but you are a TINY fraction of the Right.

    Who will, out of partisan loyalty to the GOP, dutifully vote for the guy they called "RINO" or who "sold them out after he won the Nomination" come November 2016....and not just vote for him....defend him, support him, praise him.

    99% of them. Especially if the RNC can sneak in a "stealth pro-amnesty RINO"....like Scott Walker.
     
  3. birddog

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    The dim congress already had the door opened when they passed the bill! That's more to the point.
     
  4. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your blaming the media for Christie's current lackluster persona?

    What was Bush blamed for that was not his to own?
     
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    I am not excusing Bush but I dont understand how there is no critacism for Obama when he is doing exactly the same thing in Libya. Whats the deal?
     
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    you understand; you just want to hear a liberal say the words. That will never happen
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    What was I thinking?
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  8. k995

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    And those according to a lot of republicans showed Romney was going to win.

    You need the centrist vote, and with extremists that survive the big brother house on republican side you will always have a hard time doing that.
     
  9. Troianii

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    Yeah, a lot of Democrats have been screaming that up and down. Again, voting patterns don't quite show that you need a centrist candidate to win.
     
  10. axialturban

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    Iraq redux...... I know, you still think WMD was an inappropriate lie and the reasons are buried somewhere else in conspiracy land. Clinton caused the conditions with let 9/11 happen, which necessitated the level of commitment in the ME which required Iraq to happen.
     
  11. k995

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    You keep believing that, and the projections that a republican candidate will wint, and then be suprised by election day.

    But republicans already moving to the center its just the fring that votes in the primaries that dont realise that.
     
  12. Troianii

    Troianii Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh yeah, I was talking about facts - figures and statistics used by observers to make educated predictions. And yeah, I'll keep using that tried and true method. I'm not the one going with my gut here.
     
  13. After Hours

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    Actually, with the economy improving, and Obama's approval ratings going up with hispanics, younger voters, and independent voters, I wouldn't be so quick to declare Jeb Bush or whoever the Republican nominee is, the winner just yet.

    But even if a GOP president is elected in 2016, so what? Obamacare isn't going to be repealed, and the GOP president is going to support what the right considers "amnesty". Sure they may tell their idiot supporters otherwise, but their actions will be the complete opposite.
     
  14. After Hours

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    Yep, and this is why the Republicans can sell out their idiot voters, because they know those same voters will support them regardless.

    So Scott Walker or Jeb Bush can support amnesty ( and both do) , and neither one has to worry about losing support from the GOP's idiot base. Those same low information right wingers ramble on and on about "RINO's", but when push comes to shove, they'll vote for those same "RINO's" they originally claimed they would never vote for. It's a win win for the GOP. They can garner some more of the "hispanic" vote, while at the same time keeping the vote of their white conservative base.
     
  15. k995

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    That from 1 side all were wrong? Ever heard the phrase, lies damned lies and statistics?

    By ignoring the largest voting block you are simply going by gut/preferences, nothing "scientific" about that.
     

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