FBI seized child porn website with 215,000 users

Perhaps he wants to live in an anarcho-syndicalist commune like Dennis?

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It would be hard to find someone else who would agree 100% on every law and objective for the society. Given the scarcity of land and resources, it's not realistic to believe that anyone who disagrees with any aspect of governance, or any particular law, could be able to break away from society and form a new government and society. The best you could hope for is to create mini societies where people can go where they agree with most of the laws and objectives. The problem is that there will be those who claim to be "anarchists" and refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of any Government, unless they are completely on board with it.

 

I never once said rape. I don't know what your obsession is with rape.

 

That is why a good government should only concern itself with those issues where there is broad agreement within the society. For example, 99.99% of people within any given society would likely agree that murder and rape are wrong and ought to be criminalized.

 

Did you not read this? The false narrative of the OP is that homosexuality is on par with the sex abuse of children. Thats so far from reality that the OP'er had to resort to underhanded crap to attempt to say that "leftists" condone both. They are two very different mindsets.

 

But what if someone in the society believes that a murderer or a rapist should go to jail for 5 years, while everybody else believes they should go to jail for 50? That person needs to break off and form his own Government, or else the Government is not legitimate?

 

This is the nature of any government. It's only as good as the people who formed it. If you have unreasonable people, you will have a bad government, no matter how it is configured. But at least under an anarchist paradigm, nobody will be forced to live under a government they don't want, and there will be thousands of potential choices for them.

 

This argument makes no sense.

Since you're referencing the same-sex marriage debate, where in that debate has the left in general ever argued for the ability of gay people to violate other people's rights like what is done in child sex crimes?

Child porn and same-sex marriage have absolutely nothing to do with each other. They never have. It's always been one of those fantastical dimwitted attempts to use doomspeak as an argument against SSM.

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But no real country to live in. Hello tribal warfare and feudal systems again! Woohoo! Sounds great!

 

Define "real country" for me.

As opposed to the present paradigm, where there are no wars and no exploitation of the masses. Good point.

 

They didn't, they argued you can't help who you find attractive, that you are born that way, and that although it may seem weird to many, it is considered normal to them.

Which of those descriptions does not apply to pedos?

I'm all for SSM, no matter how bad you and others in this thread want me to be against it.

I'm just asking, at which biological disorder do we stop and determine that it's gross and punishable by lawful action?

It's not against the law to look at pictures of 16 year olds in bikinis is it? But when a pedo does it, its a crime? Whatever happened to 'born that way' and 'can't help it' and 'can't change it so accept it'?

Those that are born with an attraction to little kids are automatically doomed to a life in prison?

 

None of them. And those words you spoke just now apply just as much to heterosexual people as they do to gay people and pedophiles. So I fail to see the relevance.

 

I thought that is exactly what I was arguing? Did I not? I know homosexuality isn't akin to child molestation, and while I accept homosexuality as it is without judgement, pedophilia isn't the same, it's the victimization of children who cannot in any way consent. I thought I made that clear, my bad if I didn't.

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As it should be, and if one is finding themselves attracted to young children they should seek help immediately.

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Does it (*)(*)(*)(*)ing matter?

 

Nooooooo, I quoted you for HTmarine to read.

I'm sorry for the confusion.

 

Are you being purposefully dense? You can't possibly be this purposefully dense. Cmon.

 

Perhaps you can explain it to me then.

 

Other countries are not the USA.

A 18 year old is an adult in the eyes of the law. (except for drinking for some weird reason) An 18 year old is old enough to make an informed decision.

You said it, it's called prostitution. Prostitution is illegal in most states.

Why? homosexuality not a mental illness. That's the part y'all don't get. And if a person does get their jollies off on 18 year old's guess what? Not a problem as long as the 18 year old is a willing partner.

 

Ok, I take it you are neither a homosexual, nor a pedophile, (I'm assuming here, I don't want to judge unduly)

kids, of the same age are going to experiment, this is a fact of life. This is normal behavior. When it gets into the molestation area is when kids of vastly different ages are playing around. (I am not really sure on the laws here, never really had to worry about it myself, but isn't it 4 years difference or something?)

Now a child can molest another child, and if they do, I assume they if caught have to go to court over it. Kinda like if an adult rapes another adult there are charges that can be filed.

Now two homosexual teens playing around together get caught by vigilant parents, the best thing in this situation is for both parties parents to sit down with their teens and talk about the issues that come up with sex. Help them understand the dangers and pitfalls that sex can have. Inform them with the right information so that they can make better choices.

 

I'm going to take time out going on the defensive to go on the offensive here for a moment.

The disconnection that the conservatives have shown in this thread is appalling. These jackasses want to actually equate child molestation to homosexuality. It's actually mind boggling. The shier stupidity, ignorance, contempt, hate, and ignorance displayed by the right wing members of this board is disheartening.

Homosexuality is not a disease. It's not an illness, it's not a perversion, it's just who a person is. I myself am a male who likes Irish redheaded women. (it's the accent, pale skin, and red hair and yum).

In society I'm not looked upon with any ill will for my preference. And I actually encourage straight males to get with redheads because they are becoming an endangered species as far as natural hair color. Unfortunately for me, my genes are extremely aggressive, and I produce almost perfect clones of myself as my father did me. (Well, nature does find perfection and holds onto it I suppose) and so my son has inherited my Adonis good looks, and so, I've had to teach him that with this great power, comes great responsibility.

I tell him, "Sure, you have the ability to make mortal women want to drop their panties at the sight of you. This is our burden to bear. Please, respect them as individuals, and don't take advantage of their inability to control themselves. Otherwise you end up with four girlfriends at the same time and have to work out bed sharing schedules, it's really a pain in the ass."

Which is actually fine in this society. I mean it sounds great, having four women at one time, but in practice it's a huge pain in the ass. Believe me, I've been there, the scheduling is a nightmare, and the jealousy is insane.

But polygamy and child molestation doesn't even compare. All four of those girls were within a couple years of my own age. And homosexuality and child molestation doesn't compare either. BECAUSE IT INVOLVES A KID!

I have the ability and the confidence to walk into a bar, any bar, and walk out with just about any attractive woman, I see. This isn't hard. The difference between me and a child molester, is that the women I can seduce are all of legal consenting age, and go willingly and the next morning aren't regretting their decision. (ok, maybe a few are, especially when I ask "Who are you and what are you still doing here?")

But children and homosexuals are on a completely different planes from each other. An adult male that goes for male children is a pedophile, an adult male that goes for female children is a pedophile, an adult woman that goes for male children (is a hero) no is a pedophile, an adult woman that goes after female children is a pedophile. Pedophilia and homosexuality aren't the same thing, I don't care what the (*)(*)(*)(*) you try and say they aren't the simple truth is, the fact that one can consent and the other cannot If you idiots don't get that there is no hope for your party.

 

You know, when 12, 13, 14 year olds are considered children, I can't really accept that example. They stopped believing in the Easter bunny earlier than that.

(Average age is Seven, incidentally.)

But for argument's sake, let's say we were talking younger than that. I could see myself allowing for the possibility of such a demographic consenting. And I'll illustrate a little with a personal example. When I was young (Grade school years), I didn't really consider lying to be something that could happen. I acknowledged its existence in theory, but basically assumed no one did it. So someone could've, very easily, pulled a "get in my van" on me. But if someone were to say something like that for a different reason--say, I was lost for some reason and they took pity on me--they wouldn't be exploiting that lack of ability to perceive lies.

If someone just gives a kid a candy bar and doesn't have sex with them afterwards, any cognitive deficiency is irrelevant. I'm sure you agree with this.

But of course, sex isn't a candy bar. There are other possible consequences to it. And these do matter, except for the fact that there are some potent other things involved in the run of consequences of child molestation--force, for instance, and pre-existing conditions of the child. I haven't seen data to address this really.

I'm taking this to mean you've had sex with drunk women?

 

Child may not be the most accurate description from a scientific point of view, but they certainly are not adults.

What side are you on?

 

215,000 users??? That's creepy as heck. I can't even fathom the disgusting stuff that goes on in those rings. And what does being gay have to do with this, kind of lost your point when you brought that up.

 

Children can not consent. Children can not understand and evaluate the concepts of sexuality and sex that are being forced onto them by adults.

And for everyone best interest I'm going to suggest that you never ever be left alone with a child.

 

Let's wait to see if his name is on the list and he is charged. So far they have said they are not charging him with anything and I believe he is not under criminal investigation. So let's just hold on a minute.

 

Id bet 99% of men have.

 

Castration, or impotency meds. I'm voting for castration--the dirty, perverts.



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