Let's not destroy our history in a knee-jerk reaction

All this talk about removing the confederate flag nationwide, along with statues of confederate leaders, is to obliterate an important part of American history. The symbols of the confederacy became racist symbols because of ignorant, redneck yahoos. Intelligent Americans should not stoop to their level by wiping out the first 90 years of our history as a nation. Slavery regrettably existed. It was abolished. We need to keep these facts in their historical perspective.

Afro-Americans were not the only ones to suffer bigotry and injustice. Every immigrant group experienced persecution. Should we, therefore, remove the Statue of Liberty as hypocritical?

 

Typical Alynski tactic. "Pick your target, freeze your target, polarize your target, paralyze your target."
The people that founded "Black Lives Matter" operate out of the White House.
Benjamin Crump, one of the figureheads of the Black Grievance Industry, lawyer for Trayvon Martin family, was spinning yarns about witness Rachel Jeantell in the George Zimmerman trial. When Crump was about to be deposed, revealing the depth and the extent of his lies, he rushed to the White House in an attempt to get the deposition stopped. Former Baltimore Police Chief Anthony Batts paid a visit to the White House April 5, 2015 to meet with the POTUS, whom he also met with December, 2014
Everything, all of the chaos that's been erupting all over the country, city by city, leads back to the WhiteHouse. Kate Steinle, Ferguson, Baltimore, NYPD Officers Ramos and Liu, all trails lead back to the White House. Its what Community Organizers do. And Hussein Obama is one of the best.

 

yes we should its quite hypocritical to have one of the strictest immigration policies in the world, with 5 year olds being shot at the border, yet we have the statue of liberty with "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,. The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me," written on it. Quite hypocritical indeed

the confederacy was a white supremacist terrorist organization that almost destroyed america? why would someone who calls themself an american support it? and if it was just about heritage and not a sign of racism, then why are there no british flags hanging outside courthouses? alot more of our "heritage" is attributed to them

 

Very good point about immigration.
As to the Civil War, most country boys did not have a clue what they were fighting for. Even Lincoln thought Negroes were inferior to Whites.

 

yes they did, just because every soldier didn't own slaves doesn't mean they wanted too go to schools, get married, or even use the same drinking fountain, with blacks, or any other race, they knew exactly what they were fighting for, a whites only kingdom, and saying otherwise is ridiculous.

 

There is a difference between remembering history and celebrating it. The Germans remember the Nazis, but they do not celebrate them.

Symbols of the confederacy became racist because they were used by the confederacy.

We remember slavery, but we do not celebrate it or its advocates. That should be how we treat the confederacy.

What immigrant group was persecuted and discriminated against to the extent that African Americans were?

No.

 

what happened in the past happened..you learn from it and move on...so lets get rid of the projects that are not working..create jobs for the people and fix them up..but no..the democrats refuse to give real jobs to these people..they want them stuck in the projects away from where they live...

 

This knee-jerk stuff reminds me of the Nazi's burning books. Attempt to change history by removing that which they disagree. And the Islamic fanatics who seek to destroy ancient statues and artifacts, as if it would actually change history to their liking.

 

Irish in the 1840s [Know-Nothings]. Chinese [Chinese Exclusion Act 1882]. Both groups exploited in building the transcontinental railroad. Italians [Sacco-Vanzetti trial]. The northern city slums were as bad as plantation life. [Jacob Riis, Hows the Other Half Lives, 1890]. The slaves, on the other hand, did have a noblesse oblige welfare system on the plantation, unlik e the factory worker of the Gilded Age.

 

Exactly. Thanks.

 

No one with any credibility is talking about banning the confederate flag. The issue is allowing a foreign battle flag used by an ENENMY NATION on government land.

It should be illegal for any state, or the federal government to wave a foriegn flag on any government building's flagpole.

 

INCLUDING Mexico's I hope?

 

The Confederacy has not existed since 1865; it is not now a battle flag of a foreign nation.
I agree that foreign flags should not fly over government buildings, but banning flags [symbolic speech] on private property raises free speech issues.

 

So by that logic, a state with a heavy Russia population could legally wave a Soviet flag on their state capital because the USSR does not exist anymore. But if they did that, the people supporting the confederate flag would comdemn it, and call it treason.

 

blackharvest216,
Are you that ignorant or just insane. The U.S. allows more immigration than any other country in the world. Next, when overpopulating illegal invader scab scum show up at the border with children, they actually LOOK FOR border patrol guards to turn themselves over to. They wouldn't do that if they were being shot at. (I could only wish)

I do agree that we should get rid of the statue of liberty. The only reason we got it to begin with was because Egypt didn't want the pile of garbage hanging around the Suez Canal. As for the words written on it that you mentioned, they were written by some Jewess. There probably weren't very many Jews in the U.S. at the time. She was being pretty inviting to a country that their kind didn't hold a very large stake in. Also, we live in a much different world these days. Every day, there are about 228,000 more people on the planet. (But the population of Whites isn't rising) All immigration needs to be stopped.

As for the confederacy being a White supremacist organization, you couldn't be more wrong. If they were actual White supremacists, they wouldn't have brought negros into this country to begin with. Neither would they have fought so hard to keep them here.

 

Are there any states that wave Mexico's flag on their state buildings?

We are talking about flags being allowed on tax paid public buildings, not private property, in case you are confused.

 

It's called cultural-Marxism and it's deadly serious.

What's really scary is how many have been indoctrinated by cultural-Marxism.

 

There is free speech; and there are consequences to free speech. One can wave a Nazi flag in a Jewish community, and get his head bashed in as a consequence of that free speech statement.

 

The Mexican flag is displayed in many public classrooms in California.

Seems the Mexican flag is also flown in Colorado's schools. -> http://www.cairco.org/issues/classroom-mexican-flag

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http://www.truthorfiction.com/montebello-flag/

 

Were the Irish segregated? Were the Irish enslaved?

Same questions.

All laborers were exploited.

Same questions.

The plantations were pretty (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bad.

What are you talking about? The only people who cared about the well-being of slaves were people who did not own slaves.

 

I would not know about flags in classrooms, but waving a Mexican flag on a flagpole is no different than doing so with the Confederate flag. It should not be allows on public land, IMO, but the thing is that most people who support the Confederate flag agree with me. They condemn Mexican flags being flown.

But flying any flag over the US flag is a crime, even on private land (I have seen many rednecks flying the Confederate flag above the US flag), as is flying the US flag upside down, except in an emergance (it's supposed to only be done as a call for help)


A few classes in my high school had foreign flags displayed. They were either language and culture classes, or world history.

 

I've never seen anyone flying the Confederate Flag or the Confederate Battle Flag over the American flag but if I ever were to see it I would lower the flag and put the American flag at top.

Did you know that the Confederate Battle Flag was never adopted by the Confederate Congress, never flew over any state capitols during the Confederacy.

The liberal revisionist never mention that.

 

Yes, but the battle flag was part of the second and third national flags.

I put them in a quote so you can actually see the second and third flags.

 

Look at some of the material on ''Documenting the American South'' [Univ of NC]. There are letters to the editor about ''Uncle Tom's Cabin'' as it was being published in serial form in 1851.

Slaves were expensive. To abuse a slave would be like abusing luxury car today. I am no apologist for the Confederacy. Slavery was an affront to the dignity of the Declaration of Independence-- ''all men are created equal''. I just like to keep a balanced view of history, not re-fight the Civil War.

 

It was never a national flag to begin with, it was the official flag of the confederate army. It was approved by the confederate congress to be used as such. It WAS used a part of the second and third national flags.

But, it is still a foreign flag. Saying only national flags should be banned is allowing any other flag used as a battle mantle by any other foreign government to be waved on government land as well.