Homosexuality will never be or should be a Protect Class

I already have like a 10 page discussion about this with other posters who responded well before you did. Why don't you go back and view them? You took like a week to respond.

 

We just filled out paperwork for our impending birth of our son, at the hospital online. We checked off "Life partner" when it asked what my relationship was to the mother (my wife)


From here on out, whenever I'm asked, I'm claiming gay in order to get protections from whatever curveball life gives me.


if I'm fired..... it's because I was gay and my boss was homophobic. Prove that's not true
if I'm not hired for a job, it's because they thought I was gay and the boss was homophobic. Prove it's not true.


in the battle of homophobic accusations, it's pretty apparerent, that the accuser doesn't have to actually prove their employer, boss, landlord, etc is actually homophobic.... the accused has to prove he wasn't, and some will never accept pro-gays will never accept his innocence once accused.

it's funny, I don't actually have to prove I suck dick in order to accept the protections of this demographic class. That's the problem, when everyone says they are gay, you can't enforced special protections for a choice.

 

You're really funny, in your worship of the "transformed" country, that America has become, more or less.

We're the "new truth", eh? LOL

We are more than 15 trillion in debt, the prisons are overcrowded, the school system graduates many kids who can't even read and write well, the corruption of the federal government is almost out of control,
illegal immigrants are given amnesty because the Democrats want them to become loyal voters, and you're saying we are the greatest country in the world.

We were the greatest country. But not anymore.

We have become corrupt and self-destructive like the Romans.

Watch this, and then we’ll talk.

HYPERLINK https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

 

The biggest whiners are gays. They whined for decades that they are discriminated and even now they are not content.

Your convictions about your lifestyle are very weak, since you need the power of the government to shut people up and not challenge your views and ideas. But then again, what should people expect from emotionally unstable, sexually confused and insecure individuals like gays and lesbians?

If gays were strong minded and sure of their convictions, they would say “I don’t care about what many people say about my lifestyle! They can say anything they want, I have the right to live as I want”, and live like they want to. Instead, they are obsessed with making people agree with them unconditionally and saying only nice things about their lifestyle. That shows how weak and insecure they are. Any objection or challenge to their subculture is like blasphemy.

A group that uses extreme political tactics like this and demands that a company hire or fire someone because that person’s views are or are not in line with that particular group’s views and political agenda, we’re dealing with organized crime. LGBT operates like that. That’s how organized crime “godfathers” operate. They demand that certain shopkeepers who don’t pay a protection tax or who say something negative about the Mafia bosses, close down their shops or else.

 

...with the highest GDP of any nation in history. By a wide margin.

While foreigners flock to our universities in the countless thousands.

What is the greatest country, and why aren't you living there?

The Romans were a pale shadow of what we are right now. There is no part of the world we do not touch.

Summarize it, or our talk is over.

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I know, such whiners! omg!

 

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Republican moral decay? How dare you say this. Oh really. You apparently refer to 'freedom and equal rights for all' meaning every illegal immigrant who has ever entered this country...don't you? I'd like to say: Some Democrats would prefer to destroy this country than not get their way. How about that?

What part about 'enforcing our laws' is not understandable to you?

 

You probably shouldn't have mentioned the Romans. Their decadent society is eerily similar to what liberal Dems want.

 

You have a point in all this? My lifestyle? Hetero, married 29 yrs, 1 wife. You have a problem with that? I need to shut the gov't to shut me up about that?

Why don't you talk about the issues and stop attacking people you know nothing about. It won't make you look like a 2 yr old child.

And I'm an independent American. You embarrass all of us with you name on this forum.
Change it to RW bigoted american.

 

I think everyone should be equal, without getting special treatment. It would just otherize these groups even more.
The problem with that is that LGBT people are discriminated against all the time by a lot of people. So, I guess, if you don't want to give them a "protected class status" stop being so hostile.

 

I agree it shouldn't be a protected class. In the name of equality absolutely.

 

Don't forget to check "black" as well as "gay". Hell, might as well go whole hawg and say you're a female.

 

If you're fired from your job, that's not "totalitarianism." That's called a reality check. Companies look out for their reputation, so if you, as an employee that represents them, say something that might offend some of their customers, they may decide to cut you loose. If you don't like it, start your own company or work somewhere that they tolerate this sort of thing.

Abortion is an entirely different issue, and you can get fired for expressing either side on that one, depending on how your management views things.

Illegal immigration is more comparable to the gay marriage issue. The thing that really got Trump in trouble is how he characterized most illegals as rapists. He probably could have phrased his criticism differently and kept his business arrangements.

Your HuffPo link is dead, by the way. I would be interested in reading that article if it's posted somewhere else, however.

Even if what you're posting is true about the Bolsheviks, that's not comparable with modern society's tolerance of gay people. It would be like saying that supporting Christianity today is the same as supporting Crusader ideology in years past.

 

We already have a special protection for a choice -- religion.

 

That's how little I care about gay rights and protections.

 

Ignore the facts and bring your own virtual reality into the conversation. That's a typical liberal tactic.

Our debt is almost 100% of our GDP. If you have some basic knowledge of economics, you would know that's not good for an economy.

You're almost funny, but not really. So what does that prove? Some of those foreigners are illegals who go to school on in-state tuition, paid for by American taxpayers.

Summarize what? Just watch the video and you'll see the obvious, if you are honest with yourself, of course.

Like I said, for some reason, liberals are afraid of historical facts.

 

For an explanation as to why believing in God and the Bible is a very reasonable thing to do, see comment #320 at http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...0-so-far-west-isn-t-winning-war-islam-32.html.

I’m spiritual, not religious. All genuine followers of Jesus Christ are spiritual people. Muslims are religious. They are more concerned about not touching pork, than about hurting or killing people in the name of their religion. That’s the proof of a false religion and of people who don’t know God.

 

Our foreign debt is about 1/3 of GDP. Most of our 'debt,' we owe to ourselves. The deficit is a more significant issue.



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Are you attempting to claim that the United States does not have the highest GDP of any nation in history?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

Apparently our creditors disagree. Why would they lend us money if they do not think it will be paid back?

That our universities are providing something they cannot get in their own countries...or in other countries outside of the US.

Your video.

 

The best post I've seen yet at this site.

 

Pretty simple. They're both bigoted and make no logical sense. And a dictatorial political agenda? Do you care to criticize LGBT liberation for what it actually is, or do you need to put it in your conspiracy theorist framework just so you'll have some imaginary dirt to throw?

Yes.

People get mad when you say bigoted things in public. Is this supposed to be shocking?

It's not persecution if it's a consequence for your own poorly thought out actions.

Accusing your opponents of being complicit in the cultural marxist conspiracy is not thought provoking inquiry.

That's because you aren't saying anything insightful or anything that we haven't heard thousands of times before, and you aren't even trying to make a point, you just want to express your deep contempt for gay people.

Why the hell are you talking about politics at your workplace?

Dead link, sensationalist and unverified claim. Methinks you're full of hot air.

oh boy i was starting to wonder when you'd try to connect this to lenin and the frankfurt school, the way that literally everyone that shares your political views does at the slightest opportunity

yep here we go

The Soviet Union didn't exist in 1919. The Russian Civil War was still raging. What was it you said about liberals and historical facts again?

I like the pointless scare quotes around "sex education", like you're not entirely convinced that it exists.

It's almost like having a grasp on sexuality makes it easier to make informed sexual decisions or something, but now I'm just being crazy.

That's because it is. Are you going somewhere with this tangent?

I can't think of a reason why this sentence is ridiculous that I haven't already pointed out in a previous sentence. It's just a continuation of the same pattern of paranoia that permeates this entire screed.

Apparently, being responsible and teaching children that it's okay to be who they are is "indoctrination". But you know, that thing you do where you bring up children to mindlessly believe in your religion without ever questioning it and to hate everyone different from themselves is just normal and open-minded education.

There is nothing new under the sun. At least you grasp that the fight for queer liberation isn't anything new.

The Frankfurt School is literally just a group of intellectuals who had the idea of applying Marx's concept of class struggle to social relations rather than solely economic relations. Every single time you reference a conflict between two groups in society, such as ethnic groups, or men and women, that's the cultural Marxism you whine about so much. You don't seem to grasp how utterly transparent and simple this is, because it seems that as soon as you see Marx referenced you assume everything is wrong and evil and don't bother to continue reading.

This video is garbage and I'm insulted at the fact that I wasted two entire minutes before realizing that fact and closing it. It's just some guy reiterating the same conspiracy mongering that you've been doing this whole paragraph.

 

What other weird actions do libs think should be a protected class. How about people that like to have sex with a sheep. Uh ------------- thats a real sheep, not ass kissing libs that love Obama.

 

Brendan Eich, the former CEO of Mozilla, the company that created the Firefox browser, had to resign and leave the company that he co-founded because of political correctness. Radical gay activists called the company and demanded that he step down or else Mozilla will face a boycott from the LGBT “community” and their left wing liberal allies. What was the reason for this? Did Eich say something violent against homosexuals and lesbians? Did he fire any homosexuals working at Mozilla? None of these. In 2008, Brendan Eich contributed $1,000 to a conservative group in California, that lobbied the State Congress to keep traditional marriage the only legally recognized marriage in the state. And for that, they destroyed him. It didn’t matter that he didn’t say anything violent or fire anybody from his company for their “sexual orientation”. Or that he started the company that gave internet users all over the world, an optional browser besides Microsoft Explorer.

Bricks including a threatening note were thrown through window at Christian Liberation Academy by homosexual activists.
http://americansfortruth.com/2011/10...berty-academy/

The liberal gay activists destroyed family businesess and made people pay heavy fines, not to mention making death threats and defacing their property in some cases. Like Aaron and Melissa Klein who were sued by two lesbians because theyd didn’t want to bake them a “wedding” cake. They were threatened with violence and gays shouted obscenities at them. The Kleins have to pay a fine of $135,000 and they had to shut down their business. In his overzealous fanaticism, commissioner Avakian from the State of Oregon, even got a judge to issue a gag order, that forbids them to talk in public about their case and their situation.

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I see. The Huffington Post has removed it. They don't want people to know this. As I said before, for some strange reason, liberals and left wingers in general, are afraid of historical truth.

Here's a quote from it, so you'll know it was a real article.

"And this Gaystapo has an icon to revere, an alternative Fuhrer to worship: the lost gay fascist leader Ernst Rohm. Along with Adolf Hitler, Rohm was the founding father of Nazism. He emerged from the war with a bullet-scarred face and a reverence for war. As he put it in his autobiography, "Since I am an immature and wicked man, war and unrest appeal to me more than the good bourgeois order." Gay historian Frank Rector notes, "Hitler was, to a substantial extent, Rohm's protégé." Rohm integrated Hitler into his underground movement to overthrow the Weimar Republic. Rohm talked openly about his fondness for gay bars and Turkish baths, and was known for his virility. He believed that gay people were superior to straights, and saw homosexuality as a key principle of his proposed Brave New Fascist Order. As historian Louis Snyder explains, Rohm "projected a social order in which homosexuality would be regarded as a human behaviour pattern of high repute... He flaunted his homosexuality in public and insisted his cronies do the same. He believed straight people weren't as adept at bullying and aggression as homosexuals, so homosexuality was given a high premium in the SA." They promoted an aggressive, hypermasculine form of homosexuality, condemning "hysterical women of both sexes", in reference to feminine gay men. This belief in the superiority of homosexuality had a strong German tradition that grew up at the turn of the twentieth century around Adolf Brand, publisher of the country's first gay magazine. You could call it 'Queer as Volk': they preached that gay men were the foundation of all nation-states and represented an elite, warrior caste that should rule. They venerated the ancient warrior cults of Sparta, Thebes and Athens.”

Yes, sure it's "garbage" because it exposes your degenerate extremist comrades. You just ignored the facts presented in it, it's the easiest way to "win" a debate for liberals.

 

No, homosexuals won't be a protected class. The alphabet, all letters that represent anything and everything but straight, will be protected. They'll keep adding to the alphabet. Soon it will be one of those clever acronyms bureaucrats love to create.

 

For 2,000 years, religious people have targeted homosexuals with every punishment from imprisonment and stoning to chemical castration. More recently, they have targeting gay people with legislation to get them fired from their jobs and and disrespect their military service. There are a number of states where it's still legal to evict a gay person for being gay.

And now those same religious people are gnashing their teeth and rending their clothes and howling to the heavens about the "gay agenda."

All because a gay couple asked for a f**king cake.

How pathetic is that.

 

Consent is the difference. Why can't the bible thumping neanderthals get that through their thick heads? I know a degree of stupidity is important to be religious, but this is just ridiculous.