totally stupid law... I would recommend anyone getting an abortion to say "the reason is 'rape'... leave me alone" this is what the some of the religious right thinks "GOP candidate claims disabled children are God’s punishment for abortion" http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progre...ed-children-are-gods-punishment-for-abortion/ they think disabled children are a punishment from God to the parents for some past sin .
It's shocking that someone would promote killing born children but be against first trimester abortion.
If you think it's okay to kill because it will end up being handicapped, then why should it matter much whether the child is born or not? Just because the child has not been born does not mean it does not exist yet, obviously. But many people seem to think exactly that. By the way, a baby with Down syndrome is not really any more "handicapped" than any other baby, so obviously we are talking about the future here.
The born child, regardless of disability, is no longer physically injuring another person without consent. On the contrary the very fact that the fetus does exist and is physically injuring another person without consent is what gives the female the right to any means to stop those injuries occurring .. just as you have that right. Wrong, DS is a genetic fault ergo it is disabled from the moment of conception.
Wrong, "in addition to intellectual and developmental disabilities, children with Down syndrome are at an increased risk for certain health problems. Some of the conditions that occur more often among children with Down syndrome include:" Heart defects. Almost one-half of babies with Down syndrome have congenital heart disease (CHD), the most common type of birth defect. CHD can lead to high blood pressure in the lungs, an inability of the heart to effectively and efficiently pump blood, and cyanosis (blue-tinted skin caused by reduced oxygen in the blood). For this reason, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) Committee on Genetics recommends infants with Down syndrome receive an echocardiogram (a sound “picture” of the heart) and an evaluation from a pediatric cardiologist. Sometimes, the heart defect can be detected before birth, but testing after birth is more accurate. Some heart defects are minor and may be treated with medication, but others require immediate surgery.1 Vision problems. More than 60% of children with Down syndrome have vision problems, including cataracts (clouding of the eye lens) that may be present at birth. The risk of cataract increases with age. Other eye problems that are more likely in children with Down syndrome are near-sightedness, “crossed” eyes, and rapid, involuntary eye movements. Glasses, surgery, or other treatments usually improve vision. The AAP recommends that infants with Down syndrome be examined by a pediatric eye specialist during the newborn period, and then have vision exams regularly as recommended.1 Hearing loss. About 70% to 75% of children with Down syndrome have some hearing loss, sometimes because of problems with ear structures. The AAP recommends that babies with Down syndrome be screened for hearing loss at birth and have regular follow-up hearing exams. Many inherited hearing problems can be corrected. Children with Down syndrome also tend to get a lot of ear infections. These should be treated quickly to prevent possible hearing loss.1,2 Infections. People with Down syndrome are 12 times more likely to die from untreated and unmonitored infections than other people. Down syndrome often causes problems in the immune system that can make it difficult for the body to fight off infections, so even seemingly minor infections should be treated quickly and monitored continuously. Caregivers also should make sure that children with Down syndrome receive all recommended immunizations. Hypothyroidism. The thyroid is a gland that makes hormones the body uses to regulate things such as temperature and energy. Hypothyroidism, when the thyroid makes little or no thyroid hormone, occurs more often in children with Down syndrome than in children without Down syndrome. Taking thyroid hormone by mouth, throughout life, can successfully treat the condition. A child may have thyroid problems at birth or may develop them later, so health care providers recommend a thyroid examination at birth, at 6 months, and annually throughout life.1,3 Routine newborn screening may detect hypothyroidism at birth. However, some state newborn screening programs only screen for hypothyroidism one way, by measuring free thyroxine (T4) in the blood. Because many infants with Down syndrome have normal T4, they should be screened for levels of thyroid stimulating hormone (TSH) in these states as well.4 Blood disorders. Children with Down syndrome are 10 to 15 times more likely than other children to develop leukemia (pronounced loo-KEE-mee-uh), which is cancer of the white blood cells. Children with leukemia should receive appropriate cancer treatment, which may include chemotherapy.5 Those with Down syndrome are also more likely to have anemia (low iron in the blood) and polycythemia (high red blood cell levels), among other blood disorders. These conditions may require additional treatment and monitoring.1 Hypotonia (poor muscle tone). Poor muscle tone and low strength contribute to the delays in rolling over, sitting up, crawling, and walking that are common in children with Down syndrome. Despite these delays, children with Down syndrome can learn to participate in physical activities like other children.6 Poor muscle tone, combined with a tendency for the tongue to stick out, can also make it difficult for an infant with Down syndrome to feed properly, regardless of whether they are breastfed or fed from a bottle. Infants may need nutritional supplements to ensure they are getting all the nutrients they need. Parents can work with breastfeeding experts and pediatric nutritionists to ensure proper nutrition.7 In some cases, the weak muscles can cause problems along the digestive tract, leading to various digestive problems, from difficulty swallowing to constipation. Families may need to work with a gastroenterologist to overcome these problems. Problems with the upper part of the spine. One or two of every ten children with Down syndrome has misshapen bones in the upper part of the spine, underneath the base of the skull. These misshaped bones can press on the spinal cord and increase the risk for injury. It is important to determine if these spinal problems (called atlantoaxial [pronounced at-lan-to-AK-se-al] instability) are present before the child has any surgery because certain movements required for anesthesia or surgery could cause permanent injury. In addition, some sports have an increased risk of spinal injury, so possible precautions should be discussed with a child's health care provider.1 Disrupted sleep patterns and sleep disorders. Many children with Down syndrome have disrupted sleep patterns and often have obstructive sleep apnea, which causes significant pauses in breathing during sleep. A child's health care provider may recommend a sleep study in a special sleep lab to detect problems and determine possible solutions.1 It might be necessary to remove the tonsils or to use a continuous positive airway pressure device to create airflow during sleep. Gum disease and dental problems. Children with Down syndrome may develop teeth more slowly than other children, develop teeth in a different order, develop fewer teeth, or have misaligned teeth compared to children who do not have Down syndrome. Gum disease (periodontal disease), a more serious health issue, may develop for a number of reasons, including poor oral hygiene. Health care providers recommend visiting the dentist within 6 months of the appearance of the child's first tooth or by the time the child is 1 year old.8 Epilepsy. Children with Down syndrome are more likely to have epilepsy, a condition characterized by seizures, than those without Down syndrome. The risk for epilepsy increases with age, but seizures usually occur either during the first 2 years of life or after the third decade of life. Almost one-half of people with Down syndrome who are older than age 50 have epilepsy. Seizures can usually be treated and controlled well with medication.9,10 Digestive problems. Digestive problems range from structural defects in the digestive system or its organs, to problems digesting certain types of foods or food ingredients. Treatments for these problems vary based on the specific problem. Some structural defects require surgery. Some people with Down syndrome have to eat a special diet throughout their lifetime.1,3 Celiac disease. People with celiac disease experience intestinal problems when they eat gluten, a protein in wheat, barley, and rye. Because children with Down syndrome are more likely to have celiac disease, health care providers recommend testing for it at age 2 or even younger if the child is having celiac symptoms.3 Mental health and emotional problems. Children with Down syndrome may experience behavioral and emotional problems, including anxiety, depression, and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. They might also display repetitive movements, aggression, autism, psychosis, or social withdrawal. Although they are not more likely to experience these problems, they are more likely to have difficulty coping with the problems in positive ways, especially during adolescence. Treatments may include working with a behavioral specialist and taking medications. https://www.nichd.nih.gov/health/topics/down/conditioninfo/Pages/associated.aspx
Instead of ONLY writing the posts that they want you to write why don't you try READING the answers? It might make it look less like you are ignoring facts that blow away your "reasoning"....or like you can't read the posts .... Most people would know instantly the difference between born and unborn..... it may be science but it 's a verrrrrrry simple concept.....
Simple Fox it's called selective reading .. anything that doesn't agree with the points made is ignored and treated as if it had never been written.
Why are you moving to 18 weeks old ? You do not even recognize the difference between a 2 yr old and a zygote (single human cell) ?! Perhaps you should try and get a grasp of simple concepts before moving on to more complex.
I want to deny your internet access because I disapprove of what you say. Fortunately, I have about as much chance of doing so as you do. I just do not think it is a good Idea to waste time and monet trying to remove your right to free speech....over and over again.
What about this woman? She is a pig, dog, and a disgusting animal. http://www.ijreview.com/2015/10/437...acebook&utm_medium=owned&utm_campaign=culture How is that not convenience?
It's not "convenience" because an abortion isn't convenient either. If she chose to have an abortion within the laws of her residence, we can hardly criticize her. And we certainly don't need to be calling names.
There is an alternative known as adoption and custody of children by human services. You see, once the unloving, too busy or too poor mother has an unwanted child, or a child that is not up to her standards---then let the hospital have the baby. I know, I've heard it a thousand times "It's all about the woman!" But many persons consider an unborn child as a human being, not as slaves with no civil rights.
Giving up a child for adoption is more emotionally traumatic than abortion. Women suffer for years after the adoption, while they recover fairly quickly from abortion. There is also the fact that abortion can take place fairly early in a pregnancy, while giving up a child for adoption means a woman must suffer the entire pregnancy and childbirth, but then suffering is the punishment you desire, is it not? Women have no more obligation to donate their bodies to "save the babies" than anyone else has an obligation to donate spare organs, blood, bone marrow to save a life.
The women with unwanted pregnancies can almost always blame themselves for not keeping their legs together. There is an concept of personal responsibility and their personal reputation. Unless they were raped or were very young, they should bear full responsibility for their own actions in getting PG. Again, you seem only concerned about the suffering of the woman---the unborn---you could care less. I would think you Pro-Choicers would have a tiny amount of humanity and imagine that the unborn would suffer as well as it is torn limb to limb (at least keeping the brain intact for PP $$$$) as they mature. If you have a study that can reasonable chart the post traumatic stress levels of those who have had abortions early vs late, and those who have given their children up a birth---then let's see it.
So women should not only "blame themselves" but they should accept the full range of blame and fault offered by the general public such as you. They deserve the full punishment of pregnancy/childbirth and being allowed a safe abortion would be letting her off too easy. Since most abortions by far occur in the first trimester, there is no "torn limb to limb". And keeping the brain intact could only be possible in late-term abortions, rarely done at all, and when done they are done for medically necessary reasons. You want women to put a number on the stress levels they experience? http://originsvic.tripod.com/mentalhealth/affectsonmother.html One of the letters came from a hypnotherapist who wrote "many of my patients are women distressed by not knowing what became of their children who they gave up for adoption, and adults who were adopted as babies and desperately wish to know something of their biological parents". The range of feelings described in the letters runs the gamut from curiosity thirteen years after, to "complete and continuing agony and a sense of loss". Several talk of repeated crying and one woman said she was in tears as she wrote the letter. One woman who relinquished her child twenty years ago said, " I have never gotten over it, it still upsets me". Another, thirteen years later, says she still looks for the "lost" child and feels deep depression on the child's birthday. In addition to years of grief and remorse, she now experiences the fear that retrospective legislation could result in the break down of her marriage. In the main there was strong identification with the child with references to "my child" and "loving". Six talk of seeing the child and wanting a meeting, ranging from "I believe he has a right to know me, to "I will find you one day fair means or foul". One letter contained disturbing details of desperation and unhappiness and contained the speculation that "the child will wonder who she is". Picton goes on to speculate that most of these women have been left with unanswered questions and raw feelings and quote, "one is left wondering about the quality of service given to these women".
Show me where in your civil rights that it allows a person to injure another person without their consent. Show me where in your civil rights that a person cannot withdraw implied or informed consent? Show me where in your civil rights a person can be forced to provide their body as a means for anther person to sustain their life?
I do not believe in adoption so I will not promote it. If the woman chooses it, that is her right, even if I disagree with it. However, we are not broodmares for the barren, we should not be forced or coerced into it.
Sorry consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. right so you should bear the full responsibilities when you get into a car crash, or injure yourself while playing sports, and of course you should not expect ANY medical help, after all you should bear those responsibilities for taking such risks. A fetus, when the vast majority of abortions take place, feels nothing during an abortion, it simply does not have the capability to feel anything .. later abortions are pretty much done due to life threats to the female or a fetal disability incompatible with life .. of course we all know that pro-lifers would prefer the woman to die or the fetus to be born only to live in pain for a few hours .. anything to punish that woman for having sex. You pathetic little quip "at least keeping the brain intact for PP $$$$" is about as childish as it can be. Why, so you can deny it. You already know that there are studies for this, and by far the majority of them show that there is no correlation between abortion and mental illness, the levels of mental illness remain the same whether an abortion or live birth occur ... what does change those levels is when there is a pre-existing condition .. something that the research quoted by pro-lifers ignores.
