It's official, GOP wins the White House in 2016

That's true but Romney didn't win the non citizens vote.

That's what the Reuters computer model is probably not figuring in. Researchers are now saying that it was the illegal votes that were cast in the 2008 Presidential election that gave Obama enough electoral college votes to put him in the White House.

I also doubt that the computer model figured in that 10% of the Republican conservative base who usually vote sat out the 2008 and 2012 elections but are big time Trump and or Carson supporters and will be going to the polls in 2016. About the same number with independent who sat out the 2008 and 2012 elections will also be going to the polls in 2016.

Personally I don't trust computer models, how often has the weather computer models gotten it right when predicting the weather ?

 

Do you really want a compared to Obama, article? Do you even know how many States went Republican in 1984(hint Mondale won ONE) , to thank Reagan or the number of created High Tech or manufacturing start up's? This insistent rewriting of history, by liberal minded, apparently now socialist minded, is really getting ridiculous...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1984

 

If Obama can claim he's a Constitutional law scholar so can I and I also claim to have a doctorates in climatology and if you want to see my college transcripts, you'll have to pry it from my dead cold hands.

But I digress.

I'm not a climate change denier just like most who are accused as being so. I just side with the astronomers, meteorologist and history that climate change is a natural event. That the Sun plays more of an affect on climate change than man. With man being on Earth or not, climate change happens. Earth is still a young planet and keeps changing, there are still volcanic eruptions and earthquakes taking place.

Does man contribute to climate change ? Probably so but not as much as the "climate change bigots" say it does.

Where the climate change loons or bigots went wrong, they politicized it so right off it divided the people.

 

You could make those claims but then, we'd all see some evidence of such in your posts, but regrettably there is none. BTW,\ Obama graduated from Harvard Law School and was editor of the Law Review - facts that some people just can't accept.

Of course climate change is a natural occurrence. I don't think anyone with a modicum of intelligence and knowledge of earth's history would dispute that.

yes, there are alarmists and quacks on the fringe that exaggerate or dissemble to support their own vision. But those are the fringe players (just like some deniers). I do not believe that the vast majority of climatologists who study this issue should be labeled "bigots".

funny how acid rain was a real threat back in the day and NOBODY except the fringe and the coal industry claimed it wasn't man-made. Imagine industrial pollution actually change the climate not more than 50 years ago. Of course CFC's didn't actually eat a hole in the ozone layer. Geez these quack scientists creating political will within a population to actually change behavior.

Perhaps you can explain to me how climate change and its causes ISN"T a political issue right from the get go?

 

I wouldn't call Al Gore a climate change bigot but more of a hypocrite who's been laughing his way to the bank.

Now Governor Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown is a climate change bigot.

I'm using the true definition of what a bigot is.

 

I'm not lazy, and certainly not "(*)(*)(*)(*)ing lazy." Typical liberal comment that I expect on this board when they don't like the facts.

I don't believe everything I read, and with the scam of this whole global warming BS having been exposed for the lies they are, I certainly don't believe all of the BS coming from any of Barack Hussein Obama's agencies. They can't deny the expansion of the ice sheet, so they come up with more of their BS to perpetuate the scam. But liberals believe anything the government tells them, especially Barack Hussein Obama's government run by his liberal minions.

 

Actually CFC's did eat a hole in the ozone layer. They were banned and the hole closed.

 

But the facts in the article contradict what you claim? Let me get this straight. You take a whole article talking about the effects of global warming and decide on 1 fact that you think supports your conspiracy theory? Not only that. You bombastically claim that this link proves global warming is a myth?! I mean. Either you are intellectually bankrupt or dishonest. Which is it?
Why do you believe the measurements that says the ice is growing in Antarctica by the same scientists that you don't believe in anything else they say?

I mean... The stupidity hurts!!

We have had right and left governments since the 80's who have worried about global warming because our scientists have been warning about it since 100 years ago. It has nothing to do with Gore, Obama or a liberal conspiracy. You seem awfully ignorant.

 

Exactly my point.

 

Really, you should go back and read the article you posted. In the first paragraph it clearly states the the gain in Anartic ice is but a third of what has been lost in the Artic, hence, a net loss in total ice.

 

A slight problem with the reasons given.

First of all the Republicans are reaching so deeply into the bottom of the barrel if either Carson or Trump are selected that no rational voter would support either of them. I've never known the Republican Party offer such poor possible presidential candidates in the last 50 years.

Second is the fact that President Obama's approval rating (45%) today is 180% better than former President Bush's approval rating (25%) in November 2008 when Obama defeated McCain and is one of the better second term approval ratings for presidents.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/Presidential-Approval-Ratings-George-Bush.aspx

I agree that we can't depend upon polling of possible voters because voters don't elect the president. The Electoral College elects presidents and Electoral College leans decidedly Democratic which is why Obama defeated Romney by a landslide in Electoral College votes while the popular vote was much closer.

 

Perhaps if Kerry had not been such an idiot it might have helped as well. W. Bush's presidency WAS about 9/11. There isn't anyway to show what it might have been. Of course, the economy was already slowing down before he took office as a hangover effect of the the Y2K tech boom/bust. But don't let that cloud your daily democrat talking points...

 

It's just not Republicans who are pissed off, also Democrats.

Trump has support of liberals in the double digits. Unless these liberals live in a open primary state, they will have no say so.

Trump has a double digit support of independents.

If Trump drops out, most of his support is likely to go to Cruz and maybe some to Carson.

If Carson drops out, his supporters are likely to go over to Trump.

The only hope the RNC has is Rubio but they are backing Jeb.

If Rubio wins the nomination you are going to see the same thing you did in 2008 and 2012, 10% of the Republican conservative base staying home and not going to the polls and 10% of the independents doing the same.