Service robots finally start to catch on, will eliminate millions of jobs how trendy

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  1. TBryant

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    In a grim way this may be a little funny to watch if I last long enough.

    In the world of average jobs pecking order is still a sacred thing. The person with a slightly less skilled job gives a slight sense of superiority to each person. It also gives a convenient scapegoat when things get bogged down and the person is frazzled. As computers and automations take over those jobs it will completely take away that sense of superiority and satisfaction.

    You can curse at a machine, you can blame it, but you cannot smugly compare yourself to it.
     
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    Like I said, I wasn't demeaning anyone. I simply used an example to show that the hysteria is more puff than substance. We even had a thread, for a short time, about sex robots and the comment were interesting to say the least.
     
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    Say it 50 more times...bottom line you said there are robots now that clean and vacuum replacing wives in the household did you not? You then try to state this is a conservative mindset even though you were the one who actually said it. Im fairly certain women think your comment was demeaning but its good to know you dont think so and its everyone else who is.....even though you were the one who actually made the demeaning comments. Hilarious.
     
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    This has zero to do with Obama, or the ACA.

    This has to do with the greed of so called free markets, capitalism at it's worst.

    Capitalism is dying. It only survives and works when there is growth and that all income levels have disposable income that they can use to purchase goods. But do to ever increasing levels of efficiency including robotics replacing humans it's breaking down as the profits are only enjoyed by those who bank roll the new paradigm.

    The race to cut costs, boost profit margins at the expense of people is dehumanizing our society.

     
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    I imagine when they perfect robots that easily does the work of humans right now, the rich will find ways to reduce the populations drastically to secure natural resources for their future.
     
  7. perdidochas

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    So what do you suggest? Should we go back to the 19th, or all the way back to the 16th century?
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, actually he became rich by selling MS-DOS. You need to go back ten years or so......
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Patriot act was bipartisan, as is the war on drugs.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Only one of those is correct--the abortion one. I'm a 50 year old conservative male. I'm all for women voting, and for women getting equal pay for equal work (I have a wife in the workforce, I want her being paid as well as a male in her same position (which she is, BTW)), and I gave my wife the choice to work or stay home with our sons. She did that for a few years, and then went back to work. I love the strawman you created, but it is based on a caricature of what conservatives truly believe.
     
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    Somebody has to design, mfg, maintain, and service those robots.

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    Yes. All things that infringe on individual rights are bipartisan. They love to make us less free.
     
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    republicans had full control of congress and the presidency, they could created the Patriot act
     
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    But both sides voted for it. And, actually, the Dems had control of the senate in October 2001, when it was passed. Tom Daschle (D-South Dakota) was Senate Majority leader at the time. It was voted for 98 to 1 (1 abstaining). The Republicans did have the House, and the Patriot Act got 357 Ayes, and 66 Nayes.

    Your revisionist history doesn't fly. (Yes, Bush started out with a Republican majority in the Senate on January 2001, but when Jim Jeffords jumped from the Republican party to become an independent and caucus with the Democrats in June, that gave the Dems the majority in the Senate.)
     
  14. Professor Peabody

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    Illegals are soon to be out of work. If Obama makes them legal they will be on welfare in the blink of an eye. Then guess where your taxes go?
     
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    as long as you admit republicans have shown they have no issue surrendering natural rights to the state

    that was the point

    saying dems supported it too, doesn't change that point I was making, and I can say, as a liberal, I never supported it...

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    Never denied that Republicans did it, I just denied that it was just the republicans that did it--plenty of blame to share. I don't know if you remember the days following 9/11/01, but it seemed right at the time and most people agreed with it. I admit I was in favor of the Patriot act at that time. I came to my senses by the time it came up for renewal, which I was totally against. I realized my mistake and regret it.
     
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    And our employment participation rate is at its lowest rate since the 1970's oil embargo recession. And falling.
     
  19. Alwayssa

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    that has more to do with retiring baby boomers than anything else. This was actually predicted under Reagan when the population subject to SS and Medicare went up as well as the taxability of the SS benefits. With the wage base ever increasing on a CPI scale, the excess funds were there to help make up for the loss revenue when the baby boomers began to retire.
     
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    No that is not right. In fact the age group from 55 up represent the largest increase in the workforce with the age groups between 19 and 54 actually decreasing in numbers in the workforce. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...-rise/&usg=AFQjCNFNmBedlZKuCpCkD1F8pRz9Lsd23A
     
  21. Alwayssa

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    You are dealing with two different issues here. The number of baby boomers drawing SS and other services will increase given the fact that most do not have the financial resources to retire AND not work while keeping their same lifestyle. At the same time, we are having an increase life span where people do work, along with a decreasing birth rate, and that the number of persons in the workforce cannot pay for the current benefits. When a person reaches 65 or there about, that person is entitled to Medicare and SS benefits, even if they are working full time. Most do draw the SS and Medicare when they turn that age, which is causing the drain on the system.
     
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    That is why the government should not been allowed to steal over 3 trillion from those funds. Otherwise we could afford them right now.
     
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    But that would make SS a defined benefit plan and not a social insurance contract.
     

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