White House Readies Executive Action On Gun Control

This is the part you missed that addresses that: "the assumption that the armed forces would remain loyal to a despotic government, and the assumption that they leave their current stations to be brought to bear, is ridiculous".

 

you are assuming they won't. this is another baseless claim. history has repeatedly shown that the police and or military sides with the government, not with seditious citizens.

 

They side with THEIR government. A despotic government is not theirs.

 

I don't care what you doubt or not. I was the purchasing manager and did ATF compliance for a large gun store in Ohio for 3 years. I have hunted since I was 7. I have had a CCW since 2005.

how interesting.

you won't find a single post of mine bashing owning guns.

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the government of the US is theirs.

 

I don't know.Probably because Obama is Nationalizing our Police Forces.Starting with the big
cities.And the massive purchases of AMMO. Big Sis { Janet Napolitano } former Homeland
Security Czar Lied about the ammo being purchased.Then finally admitted it.
1.6 Billion rounds as of March 2013.
How about the special uparmored Military mine resistant trucks to go along with
Police departments receiving tens of thousands of machine guns,nearly 200,ooo
ammunition magazines, thousands of pieces of camoflauge and night-vision
equipment plus hundreds of Silencers,armored cars and aircraft.
As reported by the New York Times { June 8,2014 } by Matt Apuzzo

 

In this scenario, the government of the US has been usurped by a despot. Hence my use of the adjective 'despotic' from the very first post. That is, after all, the only scenario under which The People would have to undertake such a drastic measure.

An example might be: Obama declares martial law, shreds the Constitution, suspends all future elections, executes his opposition, and names his successor.

 

Ok that's different then.

You can always try again, this time with absolute clarification.

 

Ask Mr. Rah Rah Rahl who SPLC considers the Country's biggest threat.
How about Returning vets,Gun Owners and Pro-life Activists.

 

What part of shall not be infringed, basic definitions, and sentence structure was unclear?

 

I couldn't agree more.

 

No, the legislation is aimed at semi-auto rifles that look scary..<Rule 2>

 

You'll have to go back and start reading from my initial post if you need that information.

 

Good grief, gun inadequacy compensators don't even want people on the watch list being restricted in buying guns. It may lead to Obama coming to their house and personally snatching their guns and their bibles.

 

Because "watch lists" can be manipulated to mean anything.

 

I'd bet if someone posted an anonymous tip to the FBI that you were involved in terrorism you might have a change of heart regarding the legality of such a list.

How about a secret list of Facebook users that say things the government doesn't like?

Interested in a secret list for the IRS to monitor your accounts and freeze them when they suspect you're living a little too flashy? Must be a criminal after all.

 

The NRA <Mod Edit> want essentially no restrictions or controls on sale and possession of guns and ammo &#8230; The San Bernardino wackos got theirs "legally" and that is just fine with the NRA <Mod Edit> &#8230; (Same with the Lanza Family &#8230 &#8230; Go Figure ...

 

No, they didn't get them legally. They had an acquaintance purchase them, which is a straw purchase. Illegal.

The magazines were illegal.

Not having a bullet button was illegal.

Having the weapons loaded was illegal.

Openly carrying those weapons was illegal.

And...mass murder was illegal.

What the NRA <Mod Edit> want, is to not allow them into the country in the first place, and to have anyone who commits a violent act while armed be placed in jail for life.

 

How does posting a speed limit prevent me from speeding?

 

This, of course, a statement you know you cannot prove..

Being legal purchases, they were "fine" with the people of the state with the strictest gun laws in the country.

 

No. It's just an exercise. I began this by saying it would probably never happen. You began by saying The People could not win. I proved you wrong. A despotic government who needed an armed revolution to oust would not win against The People.... unless The People were disarmed by the despots...first.

 

Hold on there sparky, you did no such thing. I clearly showed how moronic it is to think a bunch of armed seditious gun nuts marching on Washington to overthrow the government is by pointing out the army isn't going to just stand there and trade small arms fire with them. They are going to be bombed.

Small arms < big ass bombs.

 

And I clearly showed that the army will not napalm their countrymen, and would side with The People.. Patriotism > despotism.

 

I have no problem at all with strict gun control, but what I have a problem with is our inept government making laws and not enforcing them, like straw purchases. There are close to 300,000 a year and few ever prosecuted.

Now we get to the mental cases or violent citizens being allowed to buy, why? If anyone so much has a domestic violence conviction, they should never be allowed to buy a gun, but yet they do buy them.
This government won't even look at social media to catch terrorists, and you think they're going to enforce gun laws? Gun laws are only for responsible people, and the government does little to stop the bad guys

Alcohol was brought up because you managed to comment on a car not being designed to kill people. My question again is what is the benefit of alcohol other than to destroy families and societies? It has no other purpose, which is exactly your contention with guns, they are designed to kill, but that killing can also save lives, and you can't say that about alcohol

 

Note the essential modifier: "essentially" ..

Yes, my observation is true &#8230;

The NRA gun nuts FAVOR
having NO restrictions on the kind of weapons sold and possessed by people who don't need them,
including rapid rate of fire,
very large capacity magazines,
unlimited amounts of ammo, etc. &#8230;
and just last week voted down restriction on gun purchases by persons on the terror watch list &#8230;

Hello &#8230; ???