A $9.5 trillion price tag for Trump’s tax plan

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    $900 billion in deficits every year for 10 years is WAAAY too much
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I own two and work in another. So if a rich person has to pay more is he more or less likely to hire another employee? Insert jeopardy music here....doodee doo doo doo dee doo.
     
  3. Amadeus

    Amadeus New Member

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    Depends on if that extra person will make them more money. No business should hire people if it will decrease their revenue. And if you can't sustain enough employees to run a business, you never should have opened a business in the first place. Finally, if your business utilizes America's infrastructure and you don't pay your fair share, you're a deadbeat and your business should be penalized. That about cover it?

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    Politifact: "Bush Sr. handed Clinton a $269 billion budget deficit. Clinton handed Bush Jr. a $127.3 billion surplus. Bush Jr. handed Obama a $1.4 trillion deficit. Obama has reduced Bush Jr.'s deficit to just $492 billion." - Aug 27, 2015
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    strawman. Answer my question not your reworked version.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    There is no getting out of debt without raising taxes since people don't seem to like my idea of paying off the debt with printed money (the same as a tax but far more equitable).
     
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    Obama is on path to do the same. The problem is less about who's president and more about unconstitutional programs and the forced dependency upon them by both parties of government over decades.

    Yes, many republicans share the blame. But, not constitutional conservatives.
     
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    I will answer your questions however I wish. Learn to accept it.
     
  8. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didnt answer, you responded. Its ok, you and I both know ya dodged and your inability to answer is the same as a little white flag getn hoisted up. Its ok, I always win, its a curse dont get down about it.
     
  9. Amadeus

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    I answered you in full detail. You just didn't like my answer because it didn't play to your narrative.
     
  10. Reality Land

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    In case you hadn't been paying attention the new republican is not supporting the "establishment republicans" who are no different than the establishment democrats. We have a one party two party system. Groups like the Tea Parry are no longer buying what the RNC is selling. Same cannot be said for the democrats who are going even farther to the left.
     
  11. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You didnt answer you responded. I already explained this to you. Do you understand the difference or should I explain it again?
     
  12. Reality Land

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    Companies add people to expand but when government policies and red tape prevent that from happening what is a company to do? As an example, since the startup of Home Depot the government has initiated so many taxes and regulations that the CEO has stated he could not start up a Home Depot in today's big government environment.
    "Fair Share" is a political double speak for government picks the winners and redistributes the wealth to who they feel deserves it. It is a non descriptor.
    Obama also raised the national debt to nearly 19 Trillion (double) which dwarfs any piddly deficit gap he closed. News flash, if you give lend me 1 trillion I will close the deficit gap too.
     
  13. Reality Land

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    Sure there is....abolish the IRS after a tax redesign...cut the wasteful spending and special interest pork. Gut the government institutions that were not elected nor needed.
     
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    Might have been enough there to matter 40 years ago.
     
  15. Reality Land

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    One of the benefits of just 40 years ago was that the market was more free to compete and innovate....Gut the waste, and reap the rewards of a truly free market as it was just 40 years ago and there will be prosperity. but I fear the citizenry, having had a taste of government handouts, will never again get back the American spirit of self reliance and determination that built this nation.
     
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    sounds like the Anarchist Paradise
     
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    If the government would stop wasting money, there would be no
    deficit.
     
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    Yeah and our current president will probably be on that list too. Reagan added 1.873 trillion, Bush the first added 1.484 trillion, Clinton added 1.418 trillion. Reagan and Clinton in 8 years and Bush the first in 4. It was Bush the second that the debt really soared as he added 4.684 trillion. Bush added almost as much as Reagan, Bush the first and Clinton put together.

    Now Obama has added 8 trillion and counting and the total amount of debt Obama adds will come close adding up to the same as both Bush's, Reagan and Clinton did in their 28 years as president. Obama is by far the record holder here.

    But you are right, the Republicans do talk a good game and spend as much as the Democrats. So I would say the Democrats are more honest in their disregard for adding to the national debt. Neither party really gives a darn.
     
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    You should explain it again.
     
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    That's a big mattress.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ignorance is not being aware of something, stupidity is being made aware of something but still not getting it.
    Ill explain it with a remedial example.
    If the question is:
    2+2=?
    Answer:4
    Response: Pizza
     
  22. Reality Land

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    No, sounds like Constitutional government. Or we can keep it as it is and continue to get shafted by our elected reps who do not look out for the people but rather the political big government machine they have created with the libs leading the charge!

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    You must live in Colorado where the weed is legal. Lol
     
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    You mean like how we became a world economic power without income taxes?
     
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    Cutting taxes doesn't "cost" money; it saves money.

    It's s cost SAVINGS.
     
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    I still say that we should take half the defense budget every 5 years to iprove infustructure and manufacturing.

    Half of the defense budget is 300 billion. 300 billion every 5 years to reduce cost of production would solve poverty in america.


    You would greatly reduce inflation while at the same time, reducing reliance on chinas cheap manufacturing.


    And how does a tax plan "cost" any but time it takes to develop it? This is Trumps opposition speaking.


    By the way. Chinas defense budget is at 210 billion.

    So even at 300 billion, it still would be greater.
     

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