A Militia Has Taken Over A Federal Building In Oregon

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  1. Space_Time

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    Is this a dangerous situation? Does the participation of the Bundys make it more dangerous? How should should the federal government respond?

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...onal-wildlife-refuge_56888a61e4b0b958f65be382

    A Militia Has Taken Over A Federal Building In Oregon
    01/02/2016 10:33 pm ET | Updated 13 minutes ago
    Associated Press

    ASSOCIATED PRESS
    BURNS, Ore. (AP) — A peaceful protest Saturday in support of an eastern Oregon ranching family facing jail time for arson was followed shortly afterward by an occupation of a building at a national wildlife refuge.
    Ammon Bundy, the son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a standoff with the government over grazing rights, told The Oregonian he and two of his brothers were among a group of dozens of people occupying the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.
    Ammon Bundy said the group planned to stay at the refuge indefinitely.
    "We're planning on staying here for years, absolutely," Ammon Bundy said. "This is not a decision we've made at the last minute."
    An Idaho militia leader who helped organize the earlier march said he knew nothing about activities after a parade of militia members and local residents in Burns walked past the sheriff's office and the home of Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son Steven.
    Beth Anne Steele, an FBI spokeswoman in Portland, told The Associated Press the agency was aware of the situation at the national wildlife refuge. She made no further comment.
    Some local residents feared the Saturday rally would involve more than speeches, flags and marching. But the only real additions to that list seemed to be songs, flowers and pennies.
    As marchers reached the courthouse, they tossed hundreds of pennies at the locked door. Their message: civilians were buying back their government. After the march passed, two girls swooped in to scavenge the pennies.
    A few blocks away, Hammond and his wife Susan greeted marchers, who planted flower bouquets in the snow. They sang some songs, Hammond said a few words, and the protesters marched back to their cars.
    Dwight Hammond has said he and his son plan to peacefully report to prison Jan. 4 as ordered by the judge.
     
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    Occupying a building at an NWR in winter?

    Quite possibly the weakest militia act in the history of militias.
     
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    Future footnotes on wikipedia.
     
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    Beginning of the People's will to oppose tyranny.
     
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    Here's the AP report referred to in the OP...
    :wink:
    Peaceful protest followed by Oregon wildlife refuge action
    Jan 2,`16 -- A peaceful protest Saturday in support of an eastern Oregon ranching family facing jail time for arson was followed shortly afterward by an occupation of a building at a national wildlife refuge.
     
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    Ammon Buddy has a deranged mind.
     
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    Send in The U. S. Marshals … NOW …
     
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    I wonder which ones will get to live to see the end of this.
     
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    Rambo was one determined man in the mountains of Oregon. How many determined men are we talking about here? Local knowledge in the triple canopy forest will be a defenders delight. I pity the attacking force when I suspect the partisans support will be over 50% of the population.
     
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    Looks like he didn't think this one out...
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    Militia takes over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters
    January 02, 2016 - Update at 9:15 p.m.: Statement from Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward: "After the peaceful rally was completed today, a group of outside militants drove to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, where they seized and occupied the refuge headquarters. A collective effort from multiple agencies is currently working on a solution. For the time being please stay away from that area. More information will be provided as it becomes available. Please maintain a peaceful and united front and allow us to work through this situation."
     
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    Yep send in the Marshals now this is an illegal act. Note the organizer of the march that day has nothing to do with this (I have no idea what militia of which he thinks he is the "leader" but they don't want anything to do with this). Put the hammer down now that such acts by this radical group will not be tolerated by the law abiding citizens. They have no sole right to OUR lands.
     
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    This is why we have the second amendment, and it's being enforced alive and well. It is completely legal when the federal government steps over it's boundaries, and it becomes tyranny. If Battle of Athens in Tennessee happened today, liberals will be losing their minds. It's even more sicking that liberals are calling for blood shed on this small militia. Yet, people who support the Constitution, bill of rights and standing up to tyranny is "Radical" but yet BLM burns down buildings, vandalize confederate statues and graves is not radical.
     
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    They are domestic terrorists and should be treated as such.
     
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    If this were BLM or OWS, I wonder how many positions would be reversed. It sounds like they are going to have to be forcibly removed. The question is how much force.
     
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    Fox Noise couldn't get enough of his father, and all the rest of the chickenhawks riding around the desert waving guns in the air.
     
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    Oh good grief. That 'triple canopy' will look gorgeous and utterly transparent once napalm has dealt with it. You really think Fat Boy Bubba and his weekend warriors in their cool camos are any match for a vastly superior and trained military force?

    (Rambo was fiction, not a documentary)
     
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    Treat it just like the occupy movement. Do nothing for months.
     
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    They are protesting the arrest of two people. Instead of protesting local "racist" cops they are protesting the Federal Governments involvement. You seem to support BLM but want to Napalm these guys one has to wonder why the change of heart.
     
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    Correction: Ammon Bundy
     
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    I don't want to napalm anyone; I'm merely suggesting that a bunch of untrained and unfit rednecks with delusions of being a 'militia' able to withstand the might of a modern military machine is a fantasists wet dream. The resulting bloody carnage would be the reality with the rednecks being the victims.
     
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    I am merely suggesting you can post without such forward bigotry. Try it. These people are doing the same thing OWS did.
     
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    The truth is now bigotry? What a strange world we live in.
     
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    "Untrained rednecks"..

    Slurs are not needed to make a point.
     
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    Is this considered as domestic terrorism?
     
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