Should women be requires to register with Selective Service

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Should women have to join Selective Service

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    31.7%
  1. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Nobody does.

    We shouldn't be expanding oppression. We should be eliminating the oppression that already exists.
     
  2. Lancer

    Lancer New Member Past Donor

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    I agree...but as long as that oppression is the law, it must be applied equally. You don't remove oppression by favoring one group over another, you remove oppression by removing the oppression.
     
  3. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It takes brains, guts AND strength to fight as modern infantry soldiers. Notice how all you could do is feed me a load of bull?

    Where are the studies? Where are your results from combat testing showing that women can perform as well as men going on long marches with full combat loads with extra mortars and ammo, being able to dig into rocky ground and run and fight?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...in-attempting-marine-infantry-officer-course/

    http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/sep/10/marines-women-in-combat-task-force-results/

    Maybe if the average women was a super athlete or was a Miss Fitness USA---then you would have some credibility. But the average woman is not. And what is the thread, pray tell? Wanting to draft women to be placed in all MOS's?

    Of course you have never lead a 50-50 male-female force of MARSOC or even standard Marine infantry units in ground combat missions against hostile forces. What kind of an F'd-up leader would want half his force to be 40% weaker and break down 4 times as often?

    Again, if you think you know more than the people who have made the physical fitness requirements all these years, please tell the Commandant.

    Strength and muscle characteristics were examined in biceps brachii and vastus lateralis of eight men and eight women. Measurements included motor unit number, size and activation and voluntary strength of the elbow flexors and knee extensors. Fiber areas and type were determined from needle biopsies and muscle areas by computerized tomographical scanning. The women were approximately 52% and 66% as strong as the men in the upper and lower body respectively. The men were also stronger relative to lean body mass. A significant correlation was found between strength and muscle cross-sectional area (CSA; P < or = 0.05). The women had 45, 41, 30 and 25% smaller muscle CSAs for the biceps brachii, total elbow flexors, vastus lateralis and total knee extensors respectively. The men had significantly larger type I fiber areas (4597 vs 3483 microns2) and mean fiber areas (6632 vs 3963 microns2) than the women in biceps brachii and significantly larger type II fiber areas (7700 vs 4040 microns2) and mean fiber areas (7070 vs 4290 microns2) in vastus lateralis. No significant gender difference was found in the strength to CSA ratio for elbow flexion or knee extension, in biceps fiber number (180,620 in men vs 156,872 in women), muscle area to fiber area ratio in the vastus lateralis 451,468 vs 465,007) or any motor unit characteristics. Data suggest that the greater strength of the men was due primarily to larger fibers. The greater gender difference in upper body strength can probably be attributed to the fact that women tend to have a lower proportion of their lean tissue distributed in the upper body.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8477683
     
  4. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    I have found that men that brag about getting laid are not getting laid. The women I served with were nice but not that great looking so your keeping hormones in check falls that. Very simply put having women in the unit was more of a hassle then a possitive. Serving in an all male line unit was preferred by me over having women in the unit. And my question was not answered how was his comment disrespecting to the troops.
     
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    Anyone who calls themselves an adult and demands the right to vote for a war is responsible to fight and die in that war.

    Nobody should have the power to send others to die in a war without putting their own life on the line.
     
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    Absolutely not. Can you imagine for a moment your girlfriend, fiancée or wife being forcibly separated from you by your government and then sent into a war that could leave her dead, wounded, or so emotionally damaged you don't even recognise her?

    Not a possibility I would ever want to entertain.
     
  7. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    See OP. We HAVE Selective Service....the only question is should women now have to sign up since they are to be treated equally.
     
  8. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So that rules out Sanders.
     
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    Only veterans should be commander in chief? I can live with it.
     
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    No, the government should not expand oppression just so that oppression is applied equally.
     
  11. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ain't gonna happen except for you own personal choice.

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    So it's OK to discriminate against men then.........
     
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    No it's not. The draft should be abolished.
     
  13. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    But it isn't going to be dodge noted.
     
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    It's not a dodge. Discrimination against men is wrong. The correct action is to end the discrimination by eliminating the discriminatory policy, not by expanding the discriminations to also include women.

    It would be like saying "gay couples are being discriminated against by not being allowed to marry. We should ban marriage for Heteros too".
     
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    If the draft is ever applied equally, and women are drafted, the draft will be abolished - instantly.
     
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    Just like if Heteros were banned from marriage, gay marriage would legalized instantly.

    Oppression should not be expanded. It should be abolished.
     
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    The law should not discriminate.
     
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    So get rid of the discriminatory law.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Until then apply the law equally. Of course the whole issue of government databases, given their abuse, has become very problematic.
     
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    So before gay marriage was legalized, the government should have banned all marriages?
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    The marriage controversy was about a definition not equality before the law.
     
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    It was exactly about equality under the law, hence why the 14th Amendment was the primary argument against the gay marriage ban.
     
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    Considering females are capable of doing about 90% of the jobs in the military, I don't see why they shouldn't register for selective service. Keep them out of direct ground combat, but that's a relatively small percentage of the military anyway.
     
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    Nonsense, gay men and women may enter a partnership with each other. Gay marriage is a legal fiction. It undermines the real interests of gays and their political movement.
     
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    Yes it is.
     

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