At least 10 killed in blasts at Schuman, Maalbeek metro

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  1. Silver Surfer

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    Brussels under attack....Coordinated.

    At least 10 killed in blasts at Schuman, Maalbeek metro stations near EU offices


     
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    If you remember attacks on the metro were expected around Christmas. Looks at first sight that they have done these attacks in response to the arrest on Friday of the guy involved in Paris....but airport and the metro attacks on the same morning.....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35869254
     
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    Seems, Belgian Security-Forces are not equipped to deal with this terror.
     
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    And America, the world's most advanced nation, was equipped to deal with 9-11?
     
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    An interesting article suggesting the motivation for doing this attack now - one being to let the authorities know that arresting Abdeslam was not the big deal they were making it out to be....but also a suggestion that Andeslam has informed his interrogators that he was planning another attack and that given the terrorists knew this they decided to do it as quickly as possible before they could be stopped.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cks-show-how-global-terror-networks-act-local
     
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    The point is that they don't even need to carry out these attacks to cause total mayhem, disruption and fear in any given venue and at any time. We're about to discover that this is far more complex than we thought. As was said after 9/11 'Things will never be the same again!'
     
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    What do you have in mind cerberus?
     
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    I don't what to give any specific scenarios because I believe it would be to tempt providence. But think of any venue or location where there are big numbers? Unless you mean what do I have in mind for dealing with terrorists?
     
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    No. I meant this
     
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    What I have in mind is that er, things will never be the same again. [​IMG]
     
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    You mean this guy, Alexa?

    abdeslam-shot_3598480b.jpg

    Or this one:

    1458562214_salah.abdeslam.arrest.2nd.suspect.Itele..jpg

    The Telegraph has some particularly fine images of a completely unidentifiable man in a hoodie being detained (see HERE). Notice how the lead cop at the door considerately stands by as he makes a break for it before shooting him.
     

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    My eyesight is not good enough to see those people! I mean this one

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-paris-terror-suspect-salah-abdeslam-brussels
     
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    I belive they will go in Maalbeek and start do some arrests, I think these attacks + European freedom of speech and movement (that they dont want to change) + Muslim support of these attacks will be too much for the Europeans to handle, they will need to go in the neighborhood they refrained so far and "cleanse" it from radicals. if they continue to ignore it I suspect an outbreak from the Europeans toward Muslims.
     
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    What I asked was what you meant by

    What happened after 9/11 was the destruction of the Middle East creating failed states, the massive rise in Islamic terrorism, the death of probably more than a million Muslims, men women and children, millions of Muslims homeless, the rise of an entity called Islamic State and on and on and apart from in France and of course the US the spread for the first time of Islamic terrorism to Europe. There is no question that our response to 9/11 has changed the world for ever.

    You say that this particular incident in Belgium is going to do the same but refuse to elaborate. I take it you are saying your words are meaningless as you are unable to say what you have in mind but if it is anything comparable to how things changed as a response to 9/11 given that it ought to be as you compared it, it should be some change so massive that you have absolutely no problem of saying what you have in mind.
     
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    Well I did try, because I don't like ignoring anybody, but this disconnect between us really is extraordinary - I don't have it with anyone else. I took the post-9/11 quote to mean 'Things will never be the same again for Western societies/countries.', but then you give me a long spiel about the reactions to going into the ME. I won't be tempted to open your hidden posts again because . . . well, because!
     
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    OK, well what I have been hearing is that Abdeslam and most of the other Muslims in Belgium come from I think it was Moroccans who originally came over to work at low paid jobs. When these were no more they tended to suffer long term unemployment. In addition they all tended to live together isolated from the rest of Belgium which according to someone even on the BBC and not checked, meant that the Belgium police were not particularly welcomed. Obviously they could still go in but that may explain why my neighbour was telling me she was seeing furious neighbours shaking their fists at the Belgium police on Friday apparently angry that they could not get into their houses due to the arrest. The BBC were suggesting that Belgium had to look at itself - not because becoming a terrorist is ever acceptable but because they have just left these people with absolutely nothing excluded from the regular way of Belgium life - a bit like we call relative poverty. They told how even at the time of the US war on Afghanistan it was perfectly possible to commission people from this area to go to Afghanistan and kill Massoud - who may well have become a successful President and united the people. The point they are making is that the Muslims in Belgium had absolutely nothing against Massoud, no ideological reason to want and go and kill him but the reality that they have been left with nothing has left them, with typical male testosterone levels wanting to make a name for themselves. They also suggest there are thousands of potential recruits for Al Qaeda/ISIS there. I would add that there obviously is a link between France and Belgium regarding terrorism. The Paris attacks were manufactured in Belgium. The BBC were also talking about possibly a lack of good communications re intelligence between Belgium and France.

    I think you guessed where cerberus was coming from and what I understand you to be suggesting is I think what happened in France and from what I have heard something which has probably made the situation worse. I am also certain they have already done massive rounding up of suspected persons in Belgium.


    This short article I think does get the situation

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/22/response-brussels-bombings-patience-restraint

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/22/response-brussels-bombings-patience-restraint

    The bolded part is where people feed into the desires of the terrorist. They are winning.
     
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    It's high time we adopted Israel's approach. Enough of being soft touch. If powers that be don't toughen up their policies soon, the EU will break up. Ordinary Europeans aren't going to wait forever for liberal morons sitting in Brussels to take firm actions in order to tackle Sunni radical groups spread across Europe. Orban is the only politician with common sense.
     
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    While Europe is under attack by ISIS because of the influx of Muslim illegal entries. Our dear leader continues to push to allow them into America. This administration has to be insane to claim these Muslim terrorist have not and are not infiltrating America too.
     
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    We already have terrorist organizations like CAIR operating in our country with impunity.

    Their organizations should be disbanned and all of them should be immediately deported.
     
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    Agree, agree and I agree with you more. Any terrorist caught conspiring to bomb or committing mayhem in America should be tried convicted and shot for treason, or in the case of Muslims that have come to America to engage in terrorism shot as a spy after a military trial. They should not be tried in Civilian courts, they are soldiers of Islam.
     
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    I think there is a little you can do - in the sense of special services - if you have a million refugees per year and blocks and districts in European cities populated by Arabs.
     
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    Are the €uro Fanatics still singing "We shall overcome" or are the borders closing?
     
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    One step at a time. The first thing to do is to stop them from coming. Immediately. EU should put Hungarian PM Orban in charge of the security. Let him handle it. Not those deluded liberals from Brussels. Laws have to be changed and toughened up. The firm message to European Muslims must be delivered - if you engage in terrorism the consequences will be grave. Re-introduce death penalty for terrorists and deport their family members to their country of origin.
     
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    Most of Europe has already been conquered by the Empire of Islam. Europeans just don't accept this yet.
     

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