Trump tells Matthews "women deserve some type of punishment for abortions"

Not quite. Suicide is a crime in many states, as if you assist in one, you can be charged still in many jurisdictions. Further, in suicide, the victim is making the choice. Abortion is not a crime, assisting in one not a crime, if licensed, and the victim (fetus) is not making the choice. In my abortion vs shot fetus example, the fetus is a human if killed by gunfire, but not if killed by mother/abortionist.

 

You are irrelevant, why would anyone care?

 

Like I said, a lib.

 

Sure: The truth, after you strip away all the gotcha-journalism and BS partisan carp is this:

MATTHEWS: Do you think people who break the law should be punished?
TRUMP: Well, yes. Yes I do.

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Absolutely.

 

I think you would have to look up the laws in the state the woman's fetus was shot in to see what the LAW calls it. I don't think they all charge it the same. It may even be aggravated assault......but I'm sure you're not really interested...you just want to rant and scream murder.


But , yes, It is the woman's body, the woman's right to decide what to do with her fetus.

It is not your right or the shooter's right to take away that choice.

 

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If you know state laws then you can tell me what a person is charged with for shooting a woman and killing her fetus?

Why haven't you?

 

Looking at the question from a point of law instead of from a point of "women can't be blamed for anything or be expected to take responsibility for anything".

If a person planed a bank heist, provided guns to the crew but didn't participate in the actual robbery that person would be punished to the highest extent of the law and if the bank guard killed the whole crew that top conspirator would be charged with her crew's murders.

Legal or not the abortionist doesn't try to convene women to get abortions. The women, for whatever reason make the decision to terminate the pregnancy. That would make her the one initiating the illegal act..

I support abortions during the first 20 weeks but in the nonexistent chance that abortions were illegal I think that the woman would be the one most liable.

 

Wrapped up in a short sentence:


"Women are evil drunken sluts"

Thank you , Mr. Trump.



Please feel free to show your stats on late term abortions.


I know you think all women are idiots who "enjoy" 7 months of pregnancy just for the "fun" of having an abortion but facts will prove that theory as stupid as it sounds...

 

YES! Exactly! Everyone has their own set of "morals" , they are NOT really carved in stone so laws are not based on morals.

Morals change from person to person, neighborhood to neighborhood, country to country, and are fluid over time...what was considered immoral 100 years ago(like women voting) isn't now.

 

That is what the kerfluffle is about.

The Anti-Choicers have always been shy about saying what they want done to women who they declare "murder" their "babies".

They don't want to look like the woman haters they are so they skirt around it and some even think only the doctor , the accomplice, should be charged which goes against any and every legal precedence.


IF abortion is illegal and IF a woman is actually caught , the SHE is the guilty party.....the doctor is her accomplice.

If anyone hires a hitman and they complete the kill BOTH the hitman and the person who hired him are charged the same.

 

...if they broke the law.

(finished your sentence for you. You're welcome)

 

I LIKE this post, just thought I'd read it again...it is so perfectly true

 

I'm using YOUR terminology, YOUR beliefs! That's generally the pro-choice position when it comes to the multitude of reasons for why a woman should have an abortion. Now that I use your position against you to further clarify and entrench my position, now you want to claim I'm calling it "an injury conceived without consent". Not at all, in most cases it's a wonderful baby but only under those aforementioned medical conditions does the argument meet its merit!

Finally, abortion is NOT a fixture in our culture, again because if it were: Opposition would not exist. As I also mentioned previously to laws that were once upheld but now universally rejected. Abortion is on a moral slippery slope. I have tried to give it legitimate standing. But you can't reason with idiots.

 

Vegas exposes the true purpose of this, not that it wasn't transparent from the beginning. They are pressing the divisive "War on women" meme to bolster single-issue voter support for Hillary. Nothing more.

Months ago, I predicted the ramping up of the "republicans are misogynists" rhetoric ahead of Hillary's run, and here it is. It's exactly the same political play as the "republicans are racists" division tactic that won Obama the chair in 2008, and again, to a lesser extent, in 2012.

If democrats can generate enough hate and outrage (which is their modus operandi, every time) amongst those young women who would otherwise not bother to vote, to get them to the polls, they can affect the election. Their ability to generate enough hate and outrage amongst non-voters to get them to go vote bought them the last two elections. Can they do it again? I wouldn't count them out. Watch, as the "war on women" topics the MSM focus on become the lead stories, and all other important issues take a back seat.

 

Uppity women entertain the outrageous notion that they should be able to assert control over their own reproductive processes.

Maximal statists know that it is dried up old geezers in Congress who should exercise dominion, and if those politicians fancy that a microscopic, mindless entity is a just another unfortunate fellow held captive, they can exert their prerogative to seize control of the womb.

Obviously, that requires that the State must punish any citizen that presumes personal discretion in defiance of the autocratic powers to whom everyone must submit.

WAR IS PEACE

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH​

 

Your hyper-partisan pom pom flailing for trumpery ignores the widespread condemnation of the reality tv celebrity's heinous remarks by Republicans.



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That republicans AND democrats are going after him, both barrels blazing, is reason to believe that he might actually be on to something.

 

No punishment for the men. Yes, ladies, when you spread your legs, you are 'sinning' and any unwanted outcomes are your PUNISHMENT. Same (*)(*)(*)(*), different century.

 

Just because a vast majority of people think you are talking bull does not mean that................

Oh! Forget it! Yep Trump is the best thing since sliced bread and anyone who also thinks so is welcome to buy the rights to the Sydney Harbour bridge for only $30

 

Pssst: I'm not a Trump supporter. I think he's a tool.

 

Idiots? Name calling? You are getting very frustrated. It happens when you lose an argument. Sorry

 

Is there a more antiestablishment candidate than Trump? No? Then Trump's support will not be diminished by politically incorrect speech.

 

Distinctions without merit. Having unprotected sex or intercourse at all is like putting that gun to your head with the one bullet in it then pulling the trigger, You are consenting to the bullet that may go through your head.

 

Why are we even discussing something that is not going to happen? And if by some strange quirk in the law it did a President Trump or any President would have no role in the matter anywhere so it was a stupid question by Matthews in the first place.

Were RvW magically get overturned it would go back to the states, the Federal government does not make abortion law.

 

Why wouldn't they?
The bank robber AND the mastermind both get punished. The dealer and the buyer both get punished. Why would you presume that women should be above the law?