Should White Students be Allowed to Establish Student Groups Based on Race?

Good comeback, lol. So your refute to my post was, calling me a name. Now, I understand they are probably playing with numbers and stats, they aren't very clear about the "9.6%" number. Adding all the races and gender percentages they listed, I only got 59.5%. So who make up the other 40.5%? But lets see what you have to actually make this a conversation instead of just insulting the person who gives you sources.

 

Whites will be a minority soon. They're already treated like second class citizens now.

 

A similar argument, and responses could be made about Gender based Organizations.

 

Good question really. Gotta break it down even further. And then why would they ever exclude anyone else that thought the same way just cause they weren't white? I agree though, whites don't need a special group to feel special.

 

I'm an English-German-Dutch-Swedish-Norwegian-Finnish-American. How many groups can I join?

 

No we're not. What a ridiculous thing to say.

 

The article says 9.7% of black women are enrolled in college. Not that 9.7% of college enrollees are black women. Black women are only about 7% of the total population, to suggest they are the majority of college students is just ridiculous. Which is why I'm wondering if you are intellectually challenged (sorry if "stupid" was too insulting, but I didn't peg you for a PC wimp).

 

People should be able to associate with - or not associate with - anyone they choose. The federal government does not Constitutionally have the power to dictate who a person can and cannot associate with - that's even explicitly stated in the 1st Amendment.

The federal government theoretically must treat all people equally, it cannot favor one person over another because of race. But an individual can discriminate. People should be able to form whatever organization they choose - a club for whites-only, or African Americans, or blacks, or people of German ancestry, Christians only, muslims only, Democrats only.

But the USA left the Constitution a long time ago. Certain people are in a campaign for power and control, and to further their agenda they have to attack and remove certain constituencies such as traditional white Americans.

Notice that the groups under attack and the groups who are encouraged to form exclusive clubs are aligned along political lines - not racial lines. Separation by race is a byproduct.

Anything that hints of traditional American ideals is attacked and discouraged such as gun rights organizations, the Tea Party, anti-immigration groups, voter integrity groups, groups that want limited government. Notice that these conservative or traditional American groups are often attacked based on the real or propagandized appearance of their members - Tea Party or NRA images showing predominantly white people people are used to smear the organization as racist in an attempt to dimish the actual message and distract from the real issue.

A black Conservative club would be attacked viciously, while a Black "progressive" club would be hailed as a triumph.

Unions are an exclusive club - teachers only, steel workers in Pittsburgh only, etc. But they are encouraged because of their political leaning.

Its not actually about race, but politics.

 

Until the philosophy which hold one race superior / And another / Inferior / Is finally / And permanently / Discredited / And abandoned / -Everywhere is war - / Me say war.

That until there no longer / First class and second class citizens of any nation / Until the colour of a man's skin / Is of no more significance / than the colour of his eyes / - Me say war.

That until the basic human rights / Are equally guaranteed to all, / Without regard to race / - Dis a war.

That until that day / The dream of lasting peace, / World citizenship / Rule of international morality / Will remain in but a fleeting illusion to be pursued, / But never attained / - Now everywhere is war - / War

While Bob was talking about apartheid Africa, the truth is that war by proxy happens here as well, we just call it "war on crime" or "war on drugs"....sorry, when the dominant racial group that has a history of complete oppression of others by racial category thinks they need to form a racial movement to support them in the face of diminishing power and privilege, you have the beginnings of the next war.

 

I count 6, but if you're not a college student then I'm not sure you can join anymore.

 

Depends allot on WHERE you are ...

In New Mexico, Whites are Numeric Minority and have been since 1992.

Yet, it is Hispanics, who are the Majority, who own the vast majority of wealth, Real-estate, business, and political offices, and yet, they STILL receive huge benefits in college scholarships, tuition assistance, job placement, business loans... on account of their being a "Designated Disenfranchised Minority".

The Race-Card has proven effective.

Yet, it is also wearing very thin.

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Yeah, I see where I was confused. I will admit when I am wrong, "half of all Black women ages 18-24 pursuing higher degrees, Black women are beating out ALL other groups, no matter the race or gender, when it comes to overall college enrollment." and then they through in "9.7% of [all] black women are enrolled". The bait and switched.

 

Nonsense.

https://suburbanstats.org/population/how-many-people-live-in-new-mexico

http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/new-mexico-population/

 

Whites will not be the minority soon? Even when whites make up 49% of the population they will still be the overwhelming majority. You do understand this right?

 

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Your assumed stats do not delineate between white-non-Hispanic, and White-Hispanic.

The racial breakdown of the New Mexican Population is a subject of much local debate and discussion.

So much so, in 1992, when the official stats changed in favor of Hispanics, two University of New Mexico medical school students sued the University for "Minority Status Benefits".

The New Mexico Supreme Court, which is filled by Justices who are a majority of Hispanics, made a ruling, that for all time, Hispanics, for the purposes of receiving racial preferences, would be considered the "Designated Minority", regardless of the actual percentages of the population.

It made national news...

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Those are actual stats, not assumed. You have provided no stats. I repeat... nonsense.

The first link I provided shows Hispanics or Latino as 46% of the population. Obviously not the majority as you claimed.

 

You have confused national identity with race.

 

So then white Americans only have to wait 40 years (when the Hispanic population is projected to become the new majority) to form their own groups or organizations?

And then in the future, when the Hispanics represent the majority of US, will they still be allowed the endless list of Latino resources in the US and the huge network of government assistance and Hispanic only sites?

 

The issue relates to the false narrative that all whites are racist, and minorities can't be racist. The liberal assumption that white exclusive group would be a neo-Nazi or clan related group.

I agree with other posts that says that all racially based groups should be disbanded, but liberals would never let that happen. So, the alternative is allowing white exclusive groups to form.

 

Diversity, if we all segregated we would have diversity among the human species. (You know, evolving to the different settings of your ecosystem/Evolutionary situation?)

Right now we are on the path to being the same light shade of brown, not sure how that is "diverse" personally but hey I don't really care.

One half way decent super virus hits, and humanity is gone. We'll be wishing for that "diversity" back one day.

 

The founders wouldn't have wanted them to be disbanded, they would want them to actively engage each other in discussion. Why? Discussion brings societal change. Violence just resets the cycle.

We have a great opportunity right now with these "safe spaces". We need to get KKK members, BLM members, and any other hate group we can find and have them create "hate rings" around all safe spaces. It's easy enough when you tell them, "Hey, those pricks in the middle are trying to infringe on both of your rights to speak", then we see a Klan member and a BLM member fist bump while yelling obscenities at someone else.

 

As long as it is a private club or group with no government involvement, fine. No problem. If black students on a campus can form black clubs, whites and any other race should be allowed to also. If there is the Congressional Black Caucus, then you ought to be able to have the Congressional white caucus, a congressional womens caucus, a congressional mens caucus.

Personally, I do not think such things such exist. But if they are not sponsored or part of any government and are entirely a private club or group, whom forms what is entirely up to them.

 

Because a lot of the descendants of slaves have very little known family history. American Blacks who's ancestors were brought here as slaves usually have no idea of their country(as it exists on today's maps) of origin, just that they were from the Mother Continent of Africa.

My family can be traced back to England, Scotland and Ireland for hundreds of years. So we can pin point our past, which is usually not the case for a lot of Black folks.

 

That's not at all true.

It's about power.

When white people have lost the power that we now have...then there is a need for groups like these.

If you don't understand that it is those who have less power who need to have groups like this...then you might want to reassess your attitudes.

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And the fact that "African Americans" have dealt with prejudice based on their skin color and not their particular ethnicity for hundreds of years

 

EVERY society has prejudice based on skin color. Just ask a native of Mexico or any other Central/South American country.

I know quite a few people from south-east Asia and they say the same thing.