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Ya there are lawyers undoubtedly that do work for racist organizations like La Raza. ('the race') That doesn't mean they are doing anything ethical.

 

In other news, Trump University was not a university and the students got scammed.

 

Why is it you've run each and every time you've been asked to show that the SDLRLA promotes or supports any racist policies or views?

You could just directly link to them and show us in their own words.

Why haven't you done that yet? What are you so afraid of?

 

You are correct as usual. I found another source for the use of La Raza. Jose Vasconcelos, a Mexican theorist coined the phrase in a 1925 essay "La Raza Cosmica". Which meant the cosmic or super race. Oh, besides writing an essay, he was called a Nazi propagandist.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/13334650...opagandist-behind-La-Raza-Mexican-nationalism

 

Off topic...

 

Its all based on Open Society..

Soros supports them so the lemmings have to as well.. they just cant face the fact that the head of the Progressive movement ( at least monetarily) supports racist groups.

It would get them to look into the mirror and i think they would be afraid what is staring back at them.

 

Yes, I rolled my eyes at your continued use of this logic as well.

It is true (although I'm open to evidence to the contrary) that every KKK group has openly defined themselves in these terms. It is not true that every La Raza group has done the same. Sorry, but that was the point.

If we lived in a world where one KKK group, but not most, made these references, then yes, I'd be skeptical of using the one to malign the others.

I'm not going to apologize for have evidentiary standards.

 

The left is stunned to find Mexican racists.

 

Hey, you finally understand! Holy crap, I'm actually crying a little. Finally, finally you point to someone who actually has some connection with the organization in question! I mean, you are quoting him on a comedy show, which is a little iffy, but at least it is a start.

 

Ah yes... Comedy /facepalm.

Guess you missed this part

" but he has confirmed he said it at least twice: during an appearance on Ray Briem's talk radio show in May or June of 1998, and again on Tom Leykis' talk radio show: "

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/hispanicleaders.asp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Briem

I highly doubt that was found as "comedy" on Briem's show but spin it as you want to.

 

Yep, and I'm looking for links to the recordings now. Not sure about Briem, but all of the stuff that I've heard from Leykis in the past has been comedy.

 

Unfortunately, I already demonstrated the common thread of Reconquista that runs through all of La Raza and you already agreed. There is a very good reason why La Raza is called THE RACE. Continue to deny the clear strain of racial superiority that constitutes La Raza at peril to your own credibility.

What is this turgid jumble of words supposed to mean? And apart from your unwillingness to draw clear inferences from clear meanings, why does the term La Raza only signify something specific when it suits you political agenda? Why don't you answer that? And don't be afraid to look like a partisan
failure...you already do.

You should because you refuse to accept evidence that doesn't fit your biased
self interests.

 

Ah yes you went from Comedy to all you've heard..

Keep in mind this was on Snopes hardly a right wing site so you are running out of ways to spin/deflect this.

 

Oh, dear. More rabid and willful dishonesty in the face of reality. Here, since you seem incapable of clicking links, let met help you:

http://sdlrla.com/the-name/

Many people incorrectly translate the name, “La Raza,” as “the race.” While it is true that one meaning of “raza” in Spanish is indeed “race,” in Spanish, as in English and any other language, words can and do have multiple meanings. As noted in several online dictionaries, “La Raza” means “the people” or “the community.”

Translating our name as “the race” is not only inaccurate, it is factually incorrect. “Hispanic” is an ethnicity, not a race. As anyone who has ever met a Dominican American, Mexican American, or Spanish American can attest, Hispanics can be and are members of any and all races.

The term “La Raza” has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as “the people” or, according to some scholars, as “the Hispanic people of the New World.” The term was coined by Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos to reflect the fact that the people of Latin America are a mixture of many of the world’s races, cultures, and religions. In contrast, the term “Hispanic” has its origins in the 1970 U.S. Census, and the term “Latino” was officially adopted in 1997 by the U.S. Government in the ethnonym “Hispanic or Latino.”

Mistranslating “La Raza” to mean “the race” implies that it is a term meant to exclude others. In fact, the full term coined by Vasconcelos, “La Raza Cósmica,” meaning the “cosmic people,” was developed to reflect not purity but the mixture inherent in the Hispanic people. This is an inclusive concept, meaning that Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.

No, no need to thank me. Always glad to set you straight.

 

Did your 1st grade teacher have a hard time getting thru to you, honey? It's a generic term with its roots in racism, starting in 1925 in Mexico and then picked up by Mexicans in the US by the La Raza Unida political party. Every Mexican group that uses that name knows it's racist. It's origin was La Raza Cosmica, meaning the cosmic or master race. And the link I provided was just dandy. Your bias is blocking your brain cells.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/13334650...opagandist-behind-La-Raza-Mexican-nationalism

 

Is it? The judge in question ruled on the case regarding Trump U. In response, Trump calls him a Mexican. Then, his followers find that he is a member of La Raza. They use that to smear him in the vain hope that the Trump U case will go away. Trump U was a fraud, the AG of NY is prosecuting and this judge is judging. His background is irrelevant.

 

José Vasconcelos Calderón (28 February 1882 – 30 June 1959) has been called the "cultural caudillo" of the Mexican Revolution[6] He was an important Mexican writer, philosopher and politician.[7] He is one of the most influential and controversial personalities in the development of modern Mexico. His philosophy of the "cosmic race" affected all aspects of Mexican sociocultural, political, and economic policies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/José_Vasconcelos

 

You are absolutely mistaken. Please read our exchange again.

 

Well atleast one of you can admit he ( the judge) supports La Raza so i applaud you on that.

 

Here comes the right wing noise machine attempt to distract by smear!

The right wing trash blog Daily Baller citing an even more obscure right wing trash blog as a news source.

None of this changes the sleaziness of Trump U.

And since Trump has not challenged the judge's partiality, dispite all the racist noise he's making, this is apparantly the line of attack from the surrogates in far right wing fantasy land.

 

LOL! You can pull your hair and clench your tiny fists white in impotent rage, Mrs. Bubbles, but it won't change reality.

http://sdlrla.com/the-name/

"Many people incorrectly translate the name, “La Raza,” as “the race.” While it is true that one meaning of “raza” in Spanish is indeed “race,” in Spanish, as in English and any other language, words can and do have multiple meanings. As noted in several online dictionaries, “La Raza” means “the people” or “the community.”

Translating our name as “the race” is not only inaccurate, it is factually incorrect. “Hispanic” is an ethnicity, not a race. As anyone who has ever met a Dominican American, Mexican American, or Spanish American can attest, Hispanics can be and are members of any and all races.

The term “La Raza” has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as “the people” or, according to some scholars, as “the Hispanic people of the New World.” The term was coined by Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos to reflect the fact that the people of Latin America are a mixture of many of the world’s races, cultures, and religions. In contrast, the term “Hispanic” has its origins in the 1970 U.S. Census, and the term “Latino” was officially adopted in 1997 by the U.S. Government in the ethnonym “Hispanic or Latino.”

Mistranslating “La Raza” to mean “the race” implies that it is a term meant to exclude others. In fact, the full term coined by Vasconcelos, “La Raza Cósmica,” meaning the “cosmic people,” was developed to reflect not purity but the mixture inherent in the Hispanic people. This is an inclusive concept, meaning that Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny."

So, again, Mrs Bubbles: please show the racist policies/positions of the SDLRLA. Even one. Go ahead. Get your assisted living aid to help if you need to.

 

This guy originated the use of La Raza in Mexico, in 1925, for political purposes. He used it to mean the "master race". Any Mexican knows that is the real meaning, not "the people".
https://www.scribd.com/doc/13334650...opagandist-behind-La-Raza-Mexican-nationalism

 

Yes, because I'm willing to admit the possibility that I'm wrong. Leykis does comedy, but maybe the show at the time was not comedy. Although I have to admit, unless there is more to this than "If you don't like this you should leave" it doesn't sound too racist. Stupid, but not necessarily racist. Which is, again, why I'm looking for the full recording.

Sorry, but you added the Snopes link after I responded to the last one. I'll go back and check out the Snopes link.

 

And what was the "this" in context.. Come on man say it.. A Hispanic California ... And if you dont like it.. Leave gringo!

 

That is not the mistake I was referring to. The poster I was responding to was mistaken about what I had supposedly "agreed" to.