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    What is racist about saying that, if you do not like the fact that California has become majority Hispanic, then you should leave? Again, stupid, but I don't see how that's racist. "If you don't like the fact that the majority of Texas is white, then you should leave." Nope, still stupid, but I fail to see what is racist about telling people to leave if they don't like the racial demographics.
     
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    Both are racist..

    He didnt say majority he said Hispanic state.
     
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    No. Sorry. Read # 134 and then #138 for a little education in what you've already admitted to. You're a bit late changing the meaning your own posts now.
     
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    What does Hispanic state mean if not a majority Hispanic state?

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    Read #138 again. Pay attention to the third and fourth sentence. I agreed that you had identified the philosophy you were criticizing, I then asked you to demonstrate that in the group in question. Asking for proof of an assertion is not some coded agreement to said assertion.
     
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    Means Hispanic state....The Reconquista ("reconquest") is a term that is used (not exclusively) to describe the vision by different individuals, groups, and/or nations that the U.S. Southwest should be politically or culturally reconquered by Hispanics, on the basis that those territories had pertained to Mexico before the Texas annexation (1845) and the Mexican Cession (1848), as a consequence of the Mexican American War, for distinct purposes.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista_(Mexico)

    "We're going to take over all the political institutions of California. In five years the Hispanics are going to be the majority population of this state."


    ^^^^ Again same guy and its the snopes article before you cry Fox news or some nonsense.

    Look at the language used.... TAKE OVER.
     
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    Wikipedia says he was talking about a master race. That's why he and Nazi Germany got along.. Why don't you read this book instead. You can read it online at the site I was kind enough to give you.

    Jose Vasconcelos: The Nazi Propagandist Behind La Raza Mexican Nationalism. Does Wikipedia deny he wrote La Raza Cosmida Meaning the cosmic or superior race, not "the people"
     
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    Key among the secondary organizations (to La Raza) is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

    MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as “Aztlan” — a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to “La Raza” once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

    As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge’s MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: “The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled — opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power.”

    MEChA Plants

    Members of these radical, anti-American, racist organizations are frequently smoothly polished into public respectability by the National Council of La Raza.


    http://humanevents.com/2006/04/07/emexclusive-emthe-truth-about-la-raza/

    The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.

    So....Since La Raza already considers a large portion of the U.S. THEIR land one can see how the notion of 'illegal' is ignored. They consider US 'illegal' which is not unlike the arguments Libbies make about the U.S. We should be prepared to fight to keep our U.S. land and NOT let it fall to Atzlan.
     
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    No problem, Trump will implement a line item veto of all things.
     
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    How is what he said any different from Hispanics becoming the majority of both the population and of government positions?
     
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    I don't see why I should re-invent the wheel for you. Read #144 if you want a reply to #138 again though it seems unnecessary for an organization with La Raza right in their name.

    Would you claim a group with KKK or Nazi in their organizational identity is somehow not reflective of who they are?
    I mean, you have said that although it is laughable and ridiculous just on the face of things. So good luck getting out of that trap of your own making.
     
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    Why use the language take over and why suggest anyone against it should "go back to Europe"?

    Face it the guy is a racist dirt bag why you do you keep defending this?
     
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    La Raza is racist. There is nothing subtle about it.

    “‘Can’t they understand that that’s just the way Hitler started?’ A few months ago, a big foundation gave some money to a la raza group—they liked the outfit’s sense of pride,or something—and Cesar really told them off. He feels that racism will destroy our union faster, than anything else—that it plays right into the growers’hands if they can keep the minorities fighting, pitting one race against another, one group against another.” Profile: Cesar Chavez By Peter Matthiessen, The New Yorker, 6/21, 6/28 1969.

    Chicano racism is now actively engaged in the ethnic cleansing of black neighborhoods in Los Angeles.
     
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    You are all over the place right now. All I'm asking is that you stop misrepresenting what I said. I did not agree to the idea that all La Raza organizations adhere to the philosophy of Reconquista. The KKK and Nazi comparisons are circular. They try to "prove" a point by presupposing it. It isn't a trap, it is just intellectually dishonest.

    Did you know all Confederate organizations are racist?
    Well, I'm not so sure about that. Maybe some are an some aren't.
    ZOMG WOULD YOU SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE NAZIS?
    Not this (*)(*)(*)(*) again.
     
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    I'm not sure, which is why I'm asking how this is different.

    Probably because he anticipated people of European descent having a problem with it.

    Why do you keep ignoring the numerous times I've called it stupid?
     
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    The person who founded the term was a racist piece of (*)(*)(*)(*).. The co-founder of the California la raza board was a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) racist.. The founder of La Raza unida was a racist people of (*)(*)(*)(*)...

    All the people at the start of the "movement" are racist pieces of (*)(*)(*)(*) what more do you need?
     
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    There is no hint of bias.
     
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    You say its "stupid" because your agenda cant admit its racist...
     
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    Prove it with credible non partisan sources.
     
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    "If you don't like it, you should leave" is stupid, but not necessarily racist IMO. I'm sorry if that doesn't match the PC message you are going for, but that's just the way I see it, unless other information comes along.
     
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    I used Snopes do you have a problem with them? I used the Bar's own page do you have a problem with them?
     
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    But you did in #138. You agreed that reconquista was an essential element of La Raza..and it is. Your problem is once you admit to that how do you then say...but not for La Raza lawyers. You simply can't! Not honestly anyway. It's too late. You gave the game away.

    Not at all and you haven't remotely demonstrated that. Your only weak pathetic reply was to say SS Tires (or whatever it was) are not the same as the Nazi SS (as if
    anyone claimed it was).

    If you can't deal with it stop making such intellectually dishonest claims. The only reason a group of racist lawyers would form a group called KKK Lawyers would be, quite naturally, to associate themselves with the KKK itself. This is so self evident a child understands it very well.

    And it's precisely the same with La Raza Lawyers. Their only reason for being is to associate themselves with the La Raza movement.
    There is no other reason in the world to connect (A) a law group, and (B) a racist and supremacist latino political movement, whose goal is to reclaim the American southwest for Mexico. None! As soon as you find a mistake in that reasoning let me know.

    Perhaps you know of a disavowal somewhere from the La Raza Lawyers group separating themselves from the racist supremacist aims of La Raza itself.
    I know of no such thing.
     
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    If you dont like what... Come on man.. A Hispanic state... in his own words a TAKE OVER.

    Sorry i am not interested in PC never have been.. Some truths are not easy to take in.. You have been lied to. These groups are racist.
     

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