Deadbeat trump - PAY YOUR BILLS!!

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    He went down twenty years before the rest of them did.
     
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    again i ask. should he have went into bankrupcy to keep the business going? or close it down immediately?
     
  3. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Yeah, that's an issue for me and something I believe needs changing. If you're going to get paid for putting your name on something, and your name has attracted investors to that something, you don't get to just walk away when that something goes south.
     
  4. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would never place my name on something that I did not personally stand behind. Trump has zero integrity.
     
  5. bhoyal

    bhoyal Active Member

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    Wouldn't be a good trait for leader of the free world. He might turn tail and cover his hide instead of taking ownership when things get complicated. It's what he does.
     
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    Why would you want to "pi55 off racists" if you are one? Makes no sense.
     
  7. bhoyal

    bhoyal Active Member

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    It gets them fired up to go out and vote... like for me for example.

    If I run for I office, I do fully expect your vote.
     
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    Good luck with that.
     
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    Obviously, neither do the people who pay for his "brand". Or the people who finance the people who pay for his "brand". The projects might work most of the time, but if they fail, what is the collateral?
     
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    The brochure: "Visit Trump America. 80,000 Casinos and Golf Courses and a Business Friendly Environment."
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am virtually certain that republicans tried this tactic and we all see who will be on the ballot in November 2016

    The probably to be indicted Hillary vs the debtor Trump

    Guess who the public wants now?
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those going after Trump must think this Country has paid it's bills.

    Democrats should look hard at the massive debt run up under Obama.

    What about close to ten trillion dollars more in debt?

    They say, wait, his first budget was the G.W. Bush budget of 08/09

    Nope, that budget belongs to Obama. Obama made a deal with Bush to have that budget and it was Obama that signed it into law.

    Whose admin did the credit rating of the USA fall under?

    Yes, Obama's.
     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were I to run around condemning racists all the time, I would definitely get into hot water for blasting blacks.

    I mean, who the heck riots? And who lives in ghettos?

    Why are so many not working?
     
  14. MAYTAG

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    Why do you seem compelled to absolve Bush when he contributed plenty to the debt and plenty to the globalist agenda? They all work together, and if anything, as the heir to one of the most powerful crime families in history, W can not use ignorance as a personal excuse for his role in this as believably as Obama can.
     
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    Trump has NEVER been in bankruptcy, not once. That is a lie everytime someone claims he has.
     
  16. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't worry, I seriously doubt anyone is going to be offering you an advertising acting contract anyway.

    Hillary Clinton put her name with Wall Mart and Monsanto. She put her name as opposing SSM too. Clinton has zero integrity.
     
  17. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I spoke to the truth about the fact that Obama signed a budget law that covered 08/09

    Some blame the house for the debt. Well, we long had a house ran by Nancy Pelosi. Yes, during Bush.

    The claim Bush is part of organized crime or even crime is just too silly to be included in this discussion.

    Obama promised change. Bush ran it up about 5 trillion. Change was not supposed to add up to the Obama well over 9 trillion.

    Watch and listen to Obama rant against the national debt.

    Problem with him is he then took what Bush did, double Bush's and add that to the national debt.

    And as his video explains, using the Bank of China.

    [video=youtube;1kuTG19Cu_Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q[/video]
     
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    When you start demanding Hilary obey the law, apologize and compensate the women Bill abused and she helped ruin in order to protect her political career, release all Clinton Foundation tax and donation documents, and beg for forgiveness for the lies she told the mothers and fathers and wives of the Benghazi victims, then we might take you seriously.
     
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    W took over a balanced budget and mindlessly refused to even consider implementing Reaganesque tax incentives, which were the very policies that paved the way for the massive sustained growth in the 90s that afforded the balanced budget, opting instead to cut taxes across the board, a classical economist's approach, ala H.W., who called Reagan's policies "voodoo".

    And somehow no one even remembers that these are two entirely different economic theories. "Supply side" economics, Reaganomics, and trickle down economics are names for an economics model that is NOT the classical economic theory that is promoted by today's gop. H.W. was defending classical economics when he called Reagan's plans "voodoo". And they went back to classic as a party, even though supply side WORKED.

    Bush and his cronies knew exactly what policies would strengthen the middle class and balance the budget, but still chose policies that ignored those goals so that their friends could squeeze out a little more profit and stretch the wealth gap even further.

    Obama, it can be argued, honestly doesn't know the first thing about economics. You can't say that about the Bush administration. Obama may be a failure who has sworn allegiance to a misguided economics model, but that is better than purposely using the Presidency to direct society towards globalism by sabotaging the middle class.

    Personally, I feel Obama and Bush are equally guilty and that Obama is not as ignorant as he seems.
     
  20. milorafferty

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    Agreed about Trump's claim of his wealth. He likes to brag about it, but Forbes has said multiple times that he does not have what he claims.
     
  21. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I admit that republicans balanced the Federal Budget for Clinton. No problem at all.

    But Bush was never capable of single handed change to tax laws.

    He could sign the law or veto it.

    But let's name presidents who believed in large scale across the board tax cuts.

    John Kennedy.
    Ronald Reagan
    George W. Bush

    Democrats to this very day never whine over the Kennedy tax cuts nor do they call his tax cuts voodoo tax cuts.

    I applauded the Reagan ACRS system. Then in 1986, it vanished into Democrat thin air.

    Fortunately for those with ACRS, I think they kept those.

    The wealth gap is figment.

    Wealth is not the same as income. (keep in mind how the warmers claim climate is not weather, though they have no idea what climate is)

    Much of the so called wealth gap is in the form of owning stocks. Sure if you owned stock under Bush, as the bankers favored Obama, your wealth grew. This must be why Sanders blames wall street. Why the protesters were at Wall Street.

    If you do not own stocks, your wealth gains can be you owning a home. But the housing market took a major hit. I am in the housing market hoping upon hope that Dodd Frank vanishes so housing can recover. For the sake of the public, who do not own stocks, we need a housing recovery.

    Collectively, the middle class gained more over the Bush tax cuts than either the poor or the rich.

    We far outnumber those other two classes and we are who deprived the Feds of that cash.

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    His income taxes will not show wealth at all. It may in fact report income losses.
     
  22. milorafferty

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    I never cease to be amazed by how many people lack the understanding of how wealth is calculated. It's not a measure of income.
     
  23. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bush also cut taxes for all and to a much smaller degree Bush intended to end the recession post Clinton era. And it worked.
    Bush acted to save the middle class. I believe he also sent all of us a rebate check. Wealth as I briefed on was mostly in the form of stocks

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    Bush indeed understood business. Reagan was an economist yet most forget that part. I see nothing from you proving that Bush directed towards globalism nor that he sabotaged the middle class. Bush was marvelous for the middle class in the form of policies to help them own homes.

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    True. But Democrats walk around scratching their heads asking what is wealth. We know, don't we?
     
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    Yea, liberals think it has to do with how much money a person makes, that's why they are always wanting to "Tax the Rich", which is a laugh.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Holy cow. I thought you and I are on the same side of this discussion.

    This is so easy for me. It has been my bread and butter since 1971.

    Essentially a person adds up all their holdings.

    Some of it is in cash unless dead broke.

    They deduct all debts.

    What remains is wealth.

    Essentially this is the system.

    http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/wealth.asp
     

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