Is a race war imminent

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Is a race war imminent

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. To close to call

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  1. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fair point, when does it actually become war. I can see a point where cops can no longer enter certain areas of certain cities without fear of being shot at and these areas becoming lawless no go zones. Isn't this how all guerilla wars start,with the guerillas controlling small chunks of real estate.
     
  2. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes the race war is already going in prisons.
     
  3. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes I blame the BLM on obama and I have to laugh at you calling this shooter nothing but a crazed army vet. Just like the home grown ISIS terrorist are nothing but " lone Wolf's" and not really terrorism.
     
  4. SailAway

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    what has happened is an awakening of the real powers.... and this will change the nation from liberal to conservative one way or the other... check who are on EACH side to understand this
     
  5. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a race war going on now, just not the one anyone wants to talk about. The Hispanics and blacks have been at war for almost two decades now. Why anyone would want to add whites to that mix is beyond me...
     
  6. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    anyone who openly calls for violence against police, should be arrested.

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    Guess you don't know anything about the 1960s.

    many cities were burning, literally burning.
     
  7. Guyzilla

    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Furthermore, anyone suggesting armed revolution, secession or insurrection online, should have their gun rights revoked. Till they are judged on the matter. Then BANNED.
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Neo-Nazis and KKK have always felt that way
     
  9. PreteenCommunist

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    Oh, the poor cops. I just feel so sorry for them. It's not like they've ever carried out racially motivated attacks, ever.

    This is literally the sort of butthurt white comment I was expecting to see on this thread. Anyway, underlying racial tensions in a society which bubble to the surface due to the structural oppression of minorities do not constitute an all-out war. People need to be careful with that word.

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    No, it's an attack on police racism which went a bit far.
     
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    PoeticInjustice New Member

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    [video=youtube;g37HT4-EtzE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g37HT4-EtzE[/video]
     
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    No. There are too many reasonable people out there. Besides, Obama only has months left in office then he and his rabble rousing racists will be gone. Trump will bridge the divide.
     
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    These groups hate blacks for their race. Hating on a black culture that embraces killing cops is a whole other, justified, thing.
     
  13. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    most blacks don't embrace cop killers or encourage people to kill cops.
     
  14. Abandon

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    This was a mass shooting that resulted in the deaths of five innocent people. Yes, I feel sorry for them. I'd like to think that any human being that possesses the slightest bit of empathy and compassion would feel sorry for them.

    How do you know that these particular cops had ever carried out racial attacks? Or did they deserve to die due to guilt by association?

    The deaths of people due to police fire are tragic, but I would argue against automatically attributing those incidents to institutional racism. More often than not the situation is far more complex that it initially appears, but the media, driven by greed, and the common people, driven by emotion, misrepresent the facts and participate in cultivating and encouraging anger, hatred, and extremist rhetoric, which can only lead to more deaths on both sides.

    For the record, I don't agree with the OP that race war is going to break out. I think that is needless hyperbole that does more harm than good to society. But your argument that we should not feel compassion for victims of callous murder because some cops occassionally screw up is equally, if not more so, harmful.
     
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    Which 'races' will be warring? Are we all going to have to be genetically tested? Maybe we should set out a plot of land where BLM, the Black Panthers and the Skinheads and KKK can have their little race war. We could video it too.
     
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    There already is a low intensity race war between Blacks and Mexicans.

    "Federal prosecutors have charged seven Latino gang members with the firebombing of several Boyle Heights homes, and allege that the defendants were specifically targeting black families.

    According to a report from the L.A. Times, prosecutors believe that these attacks, which took place at Ramona Gardens in May 2014, were specifically designed to "drive African Americans out of the neighborhood." Ramona Gardens is the city's oldest public housing development, and it has a long history of racial tensions. "

    http://laist.com/2016/07/08/latino_gang_members_targeted_black.php
     
  17. PreteenCommunist

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    I mostly agree, and of course murder sucks and all (I did say it went too far) but I would be careful about feeling too sorry for cops in general (not specific cops) given all their racism and the system they help to perpetuate and violently enforce. And this is still nothing more than an incident of racially-motivated violence, as I characterised it. Obviously it's bad that it has had to come to this and the BLM activists went overboard, but as you say, this does not mean war.
     
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    I agree, but unfortunately it's the loudest, angriest, most insane that ends up ruining everything for the silent majority. The Nazis and ISIS come to mind; they don't represent all Germans during WW2 or Muslims, but they set the narrative.
     
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    things were MUCH worse in the 1960s.

    folks have no sense of history or perspective
     
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    When it comes to police violence, I don't think there is substantial evidence at the moment for us to definitively conclude that blacks are disporportionately targeted (or maybe there is, but I have as yet to see it). Statistics indicate that yes, if you are black, you are more likely to be killed by a police officer than if you are white... But at the same time, statistics also indicate than blacks are far more likely to commit a crime, especially a violent crime. Therefore it can be expected that a black person would on average have more encounters with the police and thus would be more likely to be killed by them.

    I have tried, and failed, to discover any proof that the shooting of Philandro Castille was in any way racially motivated. As far as evidence has shown thus far, it was a bad call from an anxious police officer (who was not even white in the first place), who stopped Castille after suspicion of him being involved in an armed robbery and who was made aware by the suspect himself that he had a gun in his car. After the shooting he was obviously extremely distressed and panicked, as evidenced by the video itself.

    We should find a way to tackle police violence, but BLM is in no way the right group for dealing with the issue. They have proven with their conduct and with their rhetoric, as well as with incidents such as the Dallas murders, that their contribution is doing nothing but fanning the flames.
     
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    Just like "Chuckie" Manson wanted.

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    There has been a race war going on in this country since the whites first landed......it's quite naïve to think otherwise.....just because every incident didn't flash instantaneously around the world with dramatic photos didn't mean there was no war.

    Just because every person who was killed because of their skin color wasn't front page news doesn't mean there wasn't a war going on.




    ...and Obama wasn't there so he didn't start it nor is he to blame for my athlete's foot.
     
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    Since you dodged my question I guess you were not alive and aware in the 60s

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    A bit too far? Children can be so cruel. LOL
     
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    The OP does not predict race war it ask if you think it's coming. Other than that I agree with your spanking of the dumb ass kid in here.
     
  25. Greataxe

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    How bout a little credit where credit is due? Alright?

    Did you know the Amerindian savages were fighting each other off and on since they came to the New World thousands of years ago? They were not just "being one with nature" and smoking their peace pipes before Columbus.

    The tribes were fighting each other to hold and gain territory just like every other group on the planet. The Aztec and Maya were horrifically brutal to their enemies. The Comanche had a policy of genocide for every other tribe or ethnicity. The Sioux and the Crow were killing each other as were every other tribe that lived close to others.

    In his book, War Before Civilization: The Myth of the Peaceful Savage, Keely found that that the homicide rate of prehistoric Illinois villagers may have exceeded that of the modern United States by some 70 times.

    So like it or not, Colonialists actually made the Americas a much more peaceful place.
     

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