For anybody that thinks America was not founded under Christianity

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  1. ChemEngineer

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    "In God We Trust" is printed on every U.S. coin, and every bill of U.S. currency.

    We pledge allegiance to "one nation, under God."

    Every preamble of every state in the union prominently makes note of God.

    When we sing patriotic songs, such as "God bless America, land that I love," we acknowledge His divine hand and inspiration in our foundations.
    [As a side note, I wonder if atheists remain silent as everyone else sings happily. If only they would REMAIN quiet.....]

    The Declaration of Independence states "...and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them..."

    The oft-repeated claim by angry atheists (but I repeat myself) of "separation of church" and state are simply more of their lies.
     
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    It sure never mentions Christ in any of those places......on purpose
     
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    The difference between Christianity and Christianity is like day and night.
     
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    They weren't orthodox Coptic, either. So what's your point?
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Yes Chrisitians have managed to get their sloganeering into OUR government in those two instances, but that is all it is sloganeering.

    So point to me the Christian parts of the Constitution? Which parts were founded in Christianity? The part about there being no religious test to hold office?
     
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    God is kind of losing his power these days. God is going the way of Zeus I am afraid. At some point we just won't need him anymore. Oh, God defenders will still try to keep God relevant but it won't work, God is going away bit by bit. Why just a few hundred years ago, even the smartest men on the planet could not even imagine that there might not be a God. Now it is pretty common for billions not to believe in God and for our smartest minds to accept it as well. God is leaving the stage, sorry God people.
     
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    People are easily brainwashed and cowtowed, thanks to the likes of you. How lovely your Darwinism is. Muslims are taking over the world.
    Aren't you proud? They kill anyone note like themselves, and breed like flies. Darwinism writ large. They will destroy you atheists with a smile, and conquer the world much to your great Darwinian joy, no doubt.

    "I have been made victorious through terror" –Mohammad (Bukhari 4.52.220)

    “One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
    – Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN

    “The term ‘moderate Islam’ is ugly and offensive. There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam. “ – Recep Erdogan, Prime Minister of Turkey
     
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    First of all, there is no such thing as Darwinism, that term is used by the creationists as a pejorative. Secondly, the advances man to all of mankind over the last 500 years have been due to mankind not some God. We are growing as a species into a more self-aware, compassionate and rational being. This progression has nothing to do with God, religion or the teachings of ancient unknown prophets lining the Bible. We are getting better and better all the time. Do we stumble? Yes but we keep going and unlike you, I believe that mankind does have the capacity to make life better for all of us. I am certainly not waiting for Jesus to come down to make a difference.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    Isn't it curious how the more mankind has been able to accurately record its history the less God made any appearances.
     
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    God isn't exclusively Christian...
    The Constitution has been amended a lot. Does that trouble you?
     
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    Christians are not even mentioned in the constitution....I guess they forgot. LOL
     
  12. Bluesguy

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    When the word god is capitalized that generally refers to the Christian God.
     
  13. GeorgiaAmy

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    Early settlers were Protestants who knew religious persecution.
    Christian influence in the US is diminishing.
     
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    I asked about the Christian parts of the Constitution and get no response.

    How about a more general "founding principles", can you give me some of the founding principles of this country that are unique to and indicative of Christians. You know the ones that I as an atheist would not share.
     
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    Translation...
    The OT is primarily Hebrew/Jewish Scripture. Pick up any Bible and God is referenced with a capital G thousands of years before Jesus.
     
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    American was founded and settled for commerce not because of religious persecution. The Pilgrims tagged along on a commercial endeavor after they lost their first pick of ship and they were less than half of the settlers. American was settled by companies setting up trade and commerce here. And we didn't go to war with Britain for a religious reason, they were commercial and political issues and principles. Yes some religious people decided they would come here too and better practice whatever religious view they held, but that was ancillary to the financial opportunities that drew the vast majority here.
     
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    A business venture hoping for a return. Pilgrims, Puritans, US history books are full of stories about the earliest Americans...
    Setting up trade and commerce to who? Howso?
    No book declares the Revolutionary War had anything to do with religion.
    What financial opportunity did the early settlers hope for?
     
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    False, What you are citing is called a Dicta (also called a Footnote), which has no force of law. Here is the legal definition of what a Dicta is

     
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    I'm not your history teacher. What was Columbus trying to do? Trying to find a trade route, and it just bloomed from there.
     
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    OH GEEZ hang me from a noose. The JUDEO/Christian God. I was addressing the CHRISTIAN aspect as that is what this thread is about.
     
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    Columbus got paid for services, I imagine.
    What do you think early US settlers were motivated by?
     
  22. GeorgiaAmy

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    Judaism, Islam, and Christianity share history, Scripture, monotheism, and such. Not the same faith or God.
    The Constitution and Declaration are not Christian.
    Only Christians use Judeo/Christian God...
    Haha...only Christian Scripture uses hell in the OT. Jews don't believe in eternal life.
     
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    He certainly shared in the profits as did all the trading companies that began to form.

    Lots of things brought the settlers over but the primary reason the trading companies formed and the settlers came was for trade and commerce opportunities. What do you think? What do you think the purpose of the colonies was?
     
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    OK your point being what? Are you disagreeing that when the name God is used, especially in reference to our country and it's history, it generally means the Judeo/Christian god?
     
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    A new start, religious freedom...Pioneers didn't come for financial prosperity.
    Main purpose for European investment? Land acquisition, possible export of new resources.
     

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