POLL: Is Islam the religion of peace?

Any religion that has had to grow throughout a broad geographic area, and inspire millions of followers in a divers set of cultures over centuries of time will need religious scriptures and metaphors for wartime and peacetime, for religious zealotry and moderation, for occasions of expansionism or integration, profit-seeking and profit denying. Religions have to be pliable, if they are to thrive in different climates, under different monarchs and under perverse social pressures. they have to be a bit chameleon like, changing colors as a defense to the waves of politics that will hit.

 

Jesus Christ is not Christian? Is the pope not Catholic? Is Mohammed not Muslim? Are the people of the book not inane, if not insane?

 

Jesus preached Love and Harmony... If Christianity didnt do as Jesus did its not Christian.....

 

Approx 1 in 5 humans alive today are muslim and a small but very vocal section are terrorists - All the muslims i know are lovely, happy and kind people and only ever use their religion for good things - I'm an atheist by the way.

Why do so many americans like killing black people? "The land of the free"...free to shoot black people you mean? Why does the american christian god hate black people so much?

 

It's true that scripture should be looked on to provide the teachings of the faith.

I'd like to know where in the Christian scriptures (which is to say, the writings of the New Testament) you find instructions on murdering non believers. Can you please provide a citation? (Please don't bother falling back to the Old Testament, unless you wish to restrict your discussion to Judaism; Christianity is about the teachings of the Christ, and as I say, that is documented in the New Testament).

Anyone interested in seeing the contrast between Christianity and Islam can find a variety of pages online which list the scriptures in the Qur'an which advocate for violence.

 

Well, in Matthew 5:17-18, Christ says, "17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

As for violence, Christian history is full of violence. Islam is doing worse now, but has no worse a track record. Any religion can be used to promote violence.

 

You want to explain how it is you think Matthew 5:17-18 is somehow exhorting violence? Matthew is saying that the Christ is the Word of God made flesh, and as such, is the fulfilment of the Law set forth in the Old Covenant. So in Christ, everything is accomplished. How is that a call to violence?

As to the history of Christianity and/or the Catholic church being full of violence, that is absolutely true, but the question remains: was that violence in keeping with the teaching of Jesus, or was that violence running counter to Jesus' teaching? Unfortunately, humans don't have a very good track record when it comes to understanding what it means to be Christian...

I would generalize your final statement even further: any human institution can be used to promote violence, and the Christian church was no exception. But again, if you believe the teaching of the faith is contained within the book (be that faith Christianity or Islam or Judaism), then it's a pretty good idea to look to the book on which the teachings of the faith are based for answers to questions like "does this religion call for violence?"

 

Right, now let's just compare Islamic majority countries and Christian majority countries.

You tell me which one you would like to go live in.

Btw, yeah there are pedophiles in the Christian religion and all walks of life, BUT Islam is the religion that justifies it. For Christ sakes Islam is the ideal religion for those in NAMBLA.

 

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You are in serious, SERIOUS need of reading the actual Islamic texts for yourself - they are ANYTHING BUT peaceful!

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Excellent post.
Yes, Muslims are ok with "thighing" babies for sexual pleasure - yep it's just like it sounds. Because Mohammad did it.

 

The amount of pure ignorance displayed here is appalling. Those of you who think Islam is peaceful are idiots. The supposed radical muslims are not radicals at all. They are doing exactly what their holy book tells them to do. Read it. I'll bet none of you have.

 

That disqualifies television evangelists from the right to call themselves "Christian".

 

Christianity's record of violence and sexual abuses FAR surpasses that of Islam. The worshipers of the "Prince of Peace" are indeed worse than the practitioners of the religion of peace.

 

You must know nothing about Christianity. That religion is based upon the teaching of Christ not the old testament. Of course if you can find where Christ instructs to murder non believers, give us the verse. But since I actually read the NT, I know you will not find it there. Oh, I am not a Christian, just someone who cannot tolerate non facts. And how many times here have people who never read the NT make such claims? I would be embarrassed to do something like this. But some people have no shame. Nor an education.

 

Yes, what you said is accurate. With that said, the founder of islam did not create a religion of love and peace. Yet the founder of Christianity did create a religion of love and peace. The church that became organized which became Christianity, did not base their religion on what Christ told the people to do, quite the contrary. So, a Christian should not be judging and condemning gays, nor indulging in violence of any kind. They should be loving others, even the sinners. So, islam follows and obeys what their founder said and taught, whereas Christianity did not do that. They finally after 2000 years stopped killing in the name of god, by an large, but it took so long to do it. But even now, few actually do as Christ told them to do.

Man wants to commit violence, wage war, and they will justify it with religion. A helluva thing, literally.

My take on Christianity is that unlike islam, it was supposed to be a religion of love and peace. The Teachings were there to create that. But then it became the religion of the roman empire, and became just like the romans, instead of the romans becoming followers of Christ. So, Christianity was never really the religion of Christ. Which explains its bloody, violent, hateful, murderous, war like history. Yet it could be a religion of peace, based upon what its founder tried to teach man. Islam does not teach the same things, quite the contrary.

 

Jesus rejects violence.. And Islam is against the will of Jesus the Lord, God and the Prince of Peace....

 

No it is not so...Although violence is against the teachings of Jesus, Yes Christians made huge mistakes and violence and I am against it.. But Islam is a religion of War... And Muhamad lifted swords and killed people and beheaded... Islam is responsible of the slaughter of 300 Million Human beings Christians, Buddhist, Hindus and Jews...And it is obliged for a Muslims to fight with sword and make Jihad...

 

There is a big difference between supporting the rule of law and rejecting violence, there can be no civilization and rule of law without violence to defend civilization. What is a centurion? Jesus submitted to the rule of law, but he and his followers would not give up freedom of speech.

Islam is not a religion of peace, because they have a false prophet and laws that cannot hear the Spirit of Truth because there can be no freedom of speech in the devil's lands:

"We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of [the devil]." (Obama, violation of oath of office)

“Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (John 8:44)

“The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam." (Obama, most treasonous president in history)

 

Both Mohammed and Jesus told their followers to do as I do. One group listen and acted upon it. The other didn't. I believe that sums it up rather nicely. The simple truth is that it is not easy to do good. The human heart is evil. History has proven that over and over again. Nothing exceeds mans capacity for evil. The only cure for this condition is a personal relationship with God. You would not have to search long to find a story of some really messed up people who found God and turned their lives around, after everyone and everything else had failed them.

 

Wrong.

A lot of hate has been performed in the name of Christianity, usually be people who are not Christians but claim the mantle of Christianity in order to pursue their own agenda (the Spanish Inquisition, for example).

Show us where in the New Testament (which defines Christianity) Christians are ordered to kill and sexually abuse people. Its not there.

But it is in the Koran, the book that defines Islam.

Case closed.

 

You forgot that Christianity also uses the Old Testament which has numerous references which "justify" such evils.

 

Yes, but that is the difference between Christianity and Islam. Christianity understood that they needed to change because the world had changed. Whereas Islam is still a religion of the middle ages, and has not changed and refuses to change.

That's the difference.

 

"Christian" Bush's 'crusade' started much of the upheaval that exists in the ME today. That's the same mentality that attempted to "justify" the West's imperialistic invasions of North Africa, the ME, and Indochina. FAR more Muslims have been killed by Christians than vice versa.

 

First off thats wrong. Islam invaded christian land for centurys before they responded with the crusades. Also far more Muslims have been killed by other Muslims than by anyone else.

 

Our Lord is Jesus.. we use old testament only for historical records. Jesus came and closed the old book he said that is how things should be from now on... thats it. We choose love over killing and hatred. This is the philosophy of Jesus Christ. I choose that.... Yes I know many in fact majority of Christians now do not follow that path anymore.. But this is what we learn and teach our children to live by..
We dont teach him quran to slay the infidels..