Turkey/US Annexing Syrian Territory Under Pretext Of Fighting ISIS

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Washington restarted the Cold War by accusing Russia of annexing Crimea even though the people are Russians and they voted by an overwhelming majority to unite with Russia. ..while in the meantime, Turkey with full US support has now invaded Syria without the approval of either its legal president or the UN.

    Erdogan's plan is to continue advancing into Syria with the American forces to take the Syrian town of Raqqa under the pretense of fighting ISIS. This is nothing but a repetition of Bill Clinton invading Serbia under the pretense of a non existent genocide by Milosovich to break up Serbia. So much for boundaries remaining intact.


    Two weeks ago, Turkey invaded Syrian territory with Washington’s full political and military support. The Syrian government and its ally Russia continue to voice concern over the incursion. Damascus has denounced it as «a violation of its sovereignty» while Moscow this week reiterated its apprehension that the US-backed Turkish intervention is further destabilizing the conflict in the country.

    Russia’s foreign ministry also pointed out that neither the Turkish nor American forces operating along the Syrian border have a legal mandate from the Syrian government in Damascus or from the United Nations. In short, the incursion is illegal, regardless of its presumed purpose.

    Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is now saying that his military is preparing to extend the offensive along with American forces to take the northeastern Syrian town of Raqqa, ostensibly from Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State (IS) militia. Erdogan claims that this plan was agreed with US President Barack Obama during bilateral discussions at the G20 summit in China last week.

    http://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...yrian-territory-with-crimea-double-think.html

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Washington's policy is to destroy Russia so its corporations can loot its wealth and there are two ways they can accomplish it. One is to instigate problems in the different parts of the Federation to get it to break up. This hasn't been successful so far, because Putin clamped down on Soros' NGO's, as well as on the bribes given to corrupt officials.

    The second method is to entangle Russia in a war. This Washington tried with Ukraine but it was to no avail. Putin would not take the bait....no matter how painful the provocations were. Instead he helped the people in the Donbas fight their own battle... for no one can fight better than those who are fighting for their homes and land.

    Taking Washington's past motives and actions into account, I feel the only alternative Washington has is to embroil Turkey and Russia in a war. It seems to be heading that way.

     
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    As much guilt as the Turks, US, Saudis & Israelis have, their war on Syria was made much simpler by the fact that the Syrian government invited this war and continue to invite the terrorists to come to Syria.
    The Syrian government insists on making Syria an Arab nation, even though Syria is not an Arab nation.
    So, as long as the Syria government continues to label Syria to be an Arab nation, the Syrian government continues to give the Arabs jurisdiction over Syria, and hence continue to give those Arab nations all the pretext they need to continue their war until Syria finally succumbs to Arab control, which is planned to become "Greater Israel" in disguise.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ivan I don't know what you're talking about. Of course Syria is an Arab nation, what else is it? The majority of people in Syria whether they be Christian, Alawites, Sunnis or Shias consider themselves Arabs ... although each of them might have a slightly different ethnic composition depending on who they mingled with. The minorities such as Kurds, Turkomans, Druze, and Armenians are not Arabs.

    As for the terrorists, how can you say Assad invited the terrorists in when the Syrian people are fighting them? I think you are a little confused.
     
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    Syria is not an Arab nation, and it was the Baath party that started the Arab republic stuff.
    Syria is the root stock of Christian Israel Europe.
    Abraham was Syrian, Issaac and Jacob were Syrian and so were their wives and children.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They now speak Arabic, so it's considered an Arab country. This doesn't mean the Christians are Arabs, since Muslims weren't able to convert... so their ancestors had to be the original inhabitants with a mixture of Christian Greek, Roman and Franc crusaders.

    It's the same with Egypt. The only ones who speak a language derived from the Ancient Egyptians are the Christian Copts... but it's getting lost gradually. They are called Copts because they 'cut' themselves off from the Orthodox Churches by not accepting one of the Ecumenical councils. I think it was the seventh one and the issue was probably political. Anyway they really should be united with the rest since there are no doctrinal differences.
     
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    Pretty funny.
     
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    Yes I somehow remember them voting with little green men with assault rifles on every corner..the turnout was 113%... everybody voted..including dead people, dogs, cats, pet goldfish and hamsters...
     
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    A true follower of Washington's propaganda ministers? How lovely! We need more of you around.


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    Does this not sound terribly similar to Adolf Hitler's annexation of Austria, otherwise known as Anschluss?

    A popular vote does not make it legal. Or morally right, for that matter.
     
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    This is a fundamental difference between Clinton and Trump THAT THE MEDIA DOES NOT DISCUSS.

    Clinton wants to renew the Cold War and to go to war directly against Russia in Syria. Trump wants the USA to stay out of Syria and if anything support Russia combating ISIS.

    It is CLEAR there is NO interest in defeating ISIS by the Clinton and Democratic Party war machine for the fantastic profits of the the super rich elitists who control them. Rather, to use ISIS as a tool for constant basis for war, bombings, drone strikes and acts of terrorism.

    THIS IS THE #1 issue in this election - and it is essential ignored by the corporations and super rich's media and press propaganda outlets that they literally own. The reason because the overwhelming majority of Americans do not want to keep involving in these for-profit-of-the-rich created wars and civil wars, agree with Trump on this topic, and certainty do not support Clinton's repeated calls for war against Russia.

    You even see this frantic and accusatory non-stop pushing the "Red Scare" against the Communist evil Russians as if still the USSR, when actually Russia poises NO threat to the USA whatsoever nor has taken any actions against the USA or any of our colonies, occupied counties, and countries we declare in our sphere whatsoever.

    Syria has been in the Russian sphere for over half a century with naval, army and air bases there on the invitation of the Syrian government. The Syrian civil was was created by the Clinton team so determined to make those hundreds of billions in war profits that they literally supplied the Taliban and ISIS plus other insurgent radical groups with the arms to create the Syrian civil war.

    I think it is a fair estimate that 80+% of Americans do not want USA troops in Syria, do not want war with Syria and do not want to renew the Cold War. Yet without any vote of Congress, we have troops in Syria and are at war by air as well with the country of Syria. And the media and press is essentially silent, other than parroting the vilification of Russia and Putin incessantly.

    The Democrat Party with Hillary Clinton is now the pro-war, pro-imperialism, pro-Wall Street and pro-mega rich global corporations - with to push poor small countries in to the horrors of civil war and kill millions of people by doing so - all so the fabulously super rich get richer and keep tossing money to the Clintons and other politicians who keep giving them war profits.
     
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    A Russian general released a long statement saying that Assad's army has lost control of over half the country and hasn't had a military victory (only humiliating defeats) since 1947-48. He said there are 2,000 checkpoints in the country and all the army does is demand bribes.

    They have little ordinance except barrel bombs and no new conscripts.

    He said Assad is broken and cannot pay his soldiers or any benefits.

    Oil production is down 95% ... agriculture is down 60% and all other production is down 70%.
     
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    Hopefully you can supply the evidence that Trump wants to support Russia in it's efforts to keep the current government of Syria in power.
     
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    Margot why don't you tell that damn Saudi Arabia that you favor so much, to stop supporting ISIS, and to stop sending terrorists into Syria. Instead you just keep talking about the destruction they caused as if Assad is to blame for protecting his people from the genocidal Wahabi system you so favor.

    And while you're at it, you can tell your Saudi brethren to stop their genocide against the Yemeni people as well.
     
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    I have news for you. It's not Russia, it's the Syrian people that want to keep the current government of Syria in power. They like secularism and hate Wahabism and sharia law ...even the Sunnis. And if you haven't realized, they hate it so much that they have sacrificed just about everything to fight it.
     
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    They aren't fighting for Assad according to the Russians.
     
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    Pretty scary. This is our Pentagon. It's laughable when our government calls it an escalation while they have SORTIES in Syria. How can you possibly call anyone else an aggressor when YOUR plane is in another country?

    It's the kind of doublespeak that's coming out of Washington and its pretty sad times. America once had a high perch, that's no longer the case.
     
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    Russian General: Here's Why Assad can't win the war in Syria.

    https://citeam.org/here-s-why-assad-s-army-can-t-win-the-war-in-syria/
     
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    We want to make northern Syria the 51st state. I hear it's lovely.
     
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    Why are we even there? We didn't stop bloodshed, we helped cause it. Assad will be gone? Okay, then, what next? Syria is one of our most depressing moments, proof of a US that doesn't act in its stated principles or beliefs.
     
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    I'm glad you read it.

    There is a proposal that is close to being accepted.. in that there would be a truce and Assad would stick around for six months as head of a secular transitional government.

    Might work.
     
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    Margot where's the link for the Russian General. Sorry but your word doesn't do it.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay Margot I found the link, and other than the spin in the commentary on top, what the translation says is nothing new. The Russian army does consider the Syrian army demoralized and dependent on Hezbollah and Iran for on ground victories... although Russia did give the Syrian army the credit for freeing Palmyra.

    Actually the world looks upon the Syrian army and its people with amazement. They have lost half their men fighting Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Turkey, the US, France, Britain, Israel, and Jordan for six years since all of them have supported the terrorists in one way or another... either by arms or men. Think about it?

    If Hezbollah had not entered the war to save Damascus from Al Nusra with its false flag chemical attack, and Russia from Obama's bombs, the survivors today would all be under sharia law.
     

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