The October Surprise ... not

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. Gatewood

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    Yep, the next thing you know he will be talking about 57 states and reminiscing about dodging sniper fire . . . oh wait that's Dem Party presidential hopefuls.
     
  2. Wehrwolfen

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    Obviously no one knows what documents are contained within the device(s) that were seized. It is apparent that there is a civil war within the FBI. Justice has taken the back seat to politics under the Obama/Lynch administration. The decision to go public took a great deal for James Comey. Funny isn't it, after the testimony of Comey in July. Democrats extolled the integrity of Director Comey. Reid, Pelosi, Cummings and so many more couldn't say enough good words about Comey. Suddenly this weekend consistent with Comey's testimony, after new evidence was uncovered he has reopened the case. Democrats created this political morass on both sides of this scandal. Now Hillary will pay for her misdeeds on November 8th.
     
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    Obviously as a good American you would want the FBI and it's director to follow the letter of the law. The evidence is yet to rise and the decision to re-open the investigation is correct. What we do know is that after a warrant was issued the primary meta data testing proves that there are over 650,000 hits regarding Emails, Hillary, Podesta, the Clinton Foundation and the State Department.
     
  5. Sandy Shanks

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    Are you telling me that Comey's letter did not affect the election? Then you went on to prove that the letter did affect the elections. " In the mean time, the LA Times poll has Trump's lead growing and it has been a fairly good leading indicator ahead of the other polls. Hillary's plan to run out the clock may have just melted."

    There is very little doubt that Comey's actions have affected the election. Comey is a federal employee. That is a violation of the Hatch Act.

    That said, it is very doubtful that Comey will change the outcome of the election. Trump is just too poor of a candidate to win the election. Dumb, too. He doesn't even know the date of the election. He urged his supporters to go and vote on November 28th. Here's hoping they do that.
     
  6. glloydd95

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    Additionally, the main point is lip service. If there are any classified emails from Hillary to Huma on that laptop, her campaign is over.

    Does anyone really think there are no classified emails from Hillary among 650k of them?
     
  7. Sandy Shanks

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    Yes, I do. But the letter to Congress was totally unnecessary. It's like he was saying, "Okay, Congressmen, the FBI is doing its job." Duh!

    He didn't release any information. He didn't tell Congress he was arresting anybody. He didn't inform them of a grand jury. He just told them the Federal Bureau of Investigation was, well, investigating.
     
  8. Wehrwolfen

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    Surely he didn't submit a proforma grand jury indictments to the DOJ, or make any arrests. As far as Lynch and Obama were concerned the issue was closed. Wiener's Sexting activities opened a new avenue of evidence that was not contemplated by the Progressive regime. It also opened the possibilities of confirmed charges of perjury along with the violations of National Security and Pay For Play Corruption. The 'Meta Data' summary on the Wiener computer showed basic information about data. Tests of author, date created and date modified and file size found over 650,000 hits Giving the FBI the ability to filter through that metadata makes it much easier for someone to locate a specific document. Initially the analysis was used to find the number of down loaded pornography on Wiener's computer devices. During the examination FBI agents found a file marked "Insurance" showing evidentiary documents related to the Hillary Email scandal.
     
  9. Sandy Shanks

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    I could add Loretta Lynch and Donna Brazile to that list. These high powered Dems are supposed to be helping Hillary. They are doing more harm than good.
     
  10. Sandy Shanks

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    There is an excellent possibility that the emails are duplicates of the ones on hillaryclinton.com, stored on Abedin's/Weiner's computer as a backup. In which case, this is all a waste of time. The Clinton campaign is convinced that is the case. Hillary ought to know. She and Abedin are close friends.

    We are being told now that the FBI as to come up with some algorithm to sift through the 650,000 emails. If any are classified, those emails will have to go to the point of origin to be assessed. If classified, the emails can't be examined by the FBI alone. All this will take time.
     
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    Everything you say is true. What is odd is the FBI disclosed to the public the simple fact that it is re-opening the case. If the FBI disclosed some reason why they were re-opening the case, then there would be no controversy surrounding Comey's actions. The public would understand why he did what he did. But he didn't, and we don't.

    On Friday, Comey didn't even know what was in the emails. Comey wrote, “the FBI cannot yet assess whether this material may be significant or how long the review will take."

    That same day Comey sent a letter to FBI employees. In view of events, to say it was conflicted is an understatement. "Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record. At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression. In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it."

    So, he went ahead and created a "misleading impression" and his actions are thoroughly "misunderstood" by Republicans, Democrats, the White House, and Comey's boss, A.G. Loretta Lynch.

    Comey's letter was preposterous. Summing up, all he really said was the FBI is investigating emails found on Weiner's computer. Geez, he didn't even disclose the emails were from Weiner's computer. That was explained later in the day.
     
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    I find the use of the word "Insurance" very, very interesting.
     
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    If Comey tries to claim he was unaware that his idiotic letter had the potential to influence an election he is the dumbest man on the planet
     
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    On this we agree. A intelligent (and honest) man would have recommended charges be filed the first time around.
     
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    That was the purpose of the letter. To inform the congress that he has reopened the investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails. I don't know why anyone would try to deny that.

    We've also learned through recent leaks that she has been under another FBI investigation that is ongoing. Four FBI field offices have been conducting an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. Hillary needed the FBI to clear her so she could have a chance to run for president without the FBI investigation over her head. So Bill Clinton met with Loretta Lynch and the fix was in.
     
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    Yes, I also found that word interesting especially when opened to find three subset files. What was this labeled insurance for? I could think of several reasons for doing so, but I won't delve into that swamp. The gases are putrid and revolting. Then again as This famous phrase from Act I, Scene 4, appears at line 90: Hamlet say's, "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark." In this case, it turns out to be the documents found on this computer file. All 675,0000 of them.
     
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    Ok I decided to read on despite being parroted. Heres my attempt at civil discourse:

    Hmmm, so he identified some rapists and murderers and they happen to be Mexican. You made it sound like he called ALL of them rapists and murderers. Do you seriously think he considers all of them as that? What did he think of the constructive meeting with the Mexican president, did he regard him as such since he is Mexican?

    Lockerroom talk -- aint right -- but who is not guilty of that at some time? I used to work with a large group of women in a business, you would not believe some of the things I overheard. They were just having some fun, all good people. But his comments there were a bit too far, even in private.

    Sorry - the foreign policies of Obama and Hillary DID lead to the formation of Isis.

    How could you say that Hillary's future spending would not be a continuation of Obama's over-spending?

    They have not been able to prove any Russian connections. We are too much of the worlds baby sitter. We need to lead by example but we can't control and get involved with everything.

    "Charitable" Foundations - lets not go there...Clintons have dipped heavily into theirs for political gain.

    The rigging is not the long honored system you mentioned but the manipulation of/by the Press and the behind the scenes arrangements with the Clinton campaign.

    Scandal and conflict will be the underlying theme of a Hillary presidency ultimately leading to Civil and/or World War. That would be a disaster. We need Trump to save America!!!
     
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    The investigation was not closed. Try to keep up
     
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    Clinton's campaign is in a total free-fall. Prepare for crash landing in T-minus 7 days.
     
  20. PatriotNews

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    I think that it was closed. I've not seen anything that showed it was ongoing.
     
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    Donald Trump.
     
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    Let's recall Hillary of her "alleged duty" to avoid her embarrassment?
     
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    Fan fiction. Love it.
     
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    What will happen if this will erode Hillary's vote,
    she will lose, then in the aftermath the FBI would announce all the facts are irrelevant.
     

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