Germany: Truck Plows Into Crowded Christmas Market in Berlin; Casualties Reported

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  1. Goomba

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    They once were, and will be again. Nothing to do with prayers, as prayer alone will get you no where... As the Qur'an says:

    "Indeed, God will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves."
     
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    Apparently you're not aware that their oil dollars are being used to buy much of the companies in the western world.
    Just 1 Arab already owns 40% of Citigroup and also a large part of 21st Century Fox.
    Just 1.
     
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    I have to imagine this was done by a right wing extremist of mid eastern decent.
     
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    Jewish text sweet talk the massacre of massive amounts of Egyptian babies, to than sweettalk the genocide of the people of Canaan. And look at them go, ethnic cleansing the land of Canaan. People who object get killed by the Jews, just like the Jews killed the people of Canaan.
     
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    I read the same about the 9/11 guys and it's indeed a bit strange. Anyway, what they found was his notice of temporary stay (he lived in Italy for a few years, then moved to Germany), albeit with a false name; not his real ID. Since authorities had been monitoring him for a while, they quickly realised who this temp notice belonged to.
     
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    You have to forgive him.
    He is a new immigrant.
    He knows the turm bloody mary.
    Now he heard they were celebrating Cristmass, only he was not sure was it bloody or merry ?
    Inocent mistake, he's new, what could he do ?
    You have to forgive him...
    Merkel already did. Obama does not understand what is there to forgive.
     
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  8. bill hill

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    Ha! Blame everyone except the perpetrating 11th century ideology! I do think it's rather rich, that you say my "rant" is fascist! The entire islamo-scum is EXACTLY that! THAT, is what the entire wordl has fought against since WW1. Authoritarian gov'ts that do NOT allow alternative views and are the most extreme intolerant POS's the world has ever known. I should have known you would take up for islamo-scum all the while hurling a "fascist" slogan my way, probably not even knowing what the word even means. Typical
     
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    ISLAM - religion of piece! Piece of arms, piece of legs, and piece of heads!
     
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    Nope. Every Christmas market usually has a main entrance wide enough to drive one or two trucks through. Some (!) bigger cities are now using bollards for said entrance, that's all. No one is building walls around them, but if the Donald says it, I guess it must be true since he's well-known for being very accurate (except that in early 2016 he tweeted Paris was in Germany, but we shouldn't be too pedantic).
     
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    So are you saying that everything is fine in Germany...!!!
     
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    Islam with its ideal being a caliphate or theocracy is not modern world material. So incapable of ruling the world. . They took the wrong path long ago after a burst of non religious brilliance. They lost their importance for math and science by a religious based decision, by some nut.

    Let us hope islam reforms as Christianity did, and joins the 21st century. Before the rest of the world loses it patience. The world will continue to accept religion as long as religion knows its place, and stays out of the lives of the non religious. If islam will not do this, well, its not like the world would miss them, for it will remember the barbarians. I expect sooner or later islam will reform, and like the Christians will just ignore certain parts of the bible. So as to fit in with the modern world. And be better human beings.

    Unlike some people, I blame the US and the interests of the elites for helping radical islam to grow. By our actions in the middle east. Action, reaction, cause, effect.
     
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    If you're interested I try to give a short overview on the actual informations in from inside Germany:

    The Polish truck was to be cleared at a station in the north of Berlin. Then the Company (the cusin of the driver) lost connection. Obviously the terrorist captured the truck, weaponed with knive and gun. They guess, he didn't shoot the driver at this time, because he needed his help to drive the truck through Berlin (ca. 5 miles). Arrived at Budapester Strasse the terrorist circled the market once and then took his way into the market. There seemed to be a fight, as the polish driver on the co-Pilote seat recognized, what happened. He tried to change direction of the truck by grapping the steering wheel (obviously he partitially suceeded, maybe hundreds of people would have died otherway. The truck took some 70 meters and soon had a crash). The terrorist managed to shoot him dead and fled the car. They suppose, the terrorist was injured by the fight and fled in panic, this may be a reason for the lost papers.

    Those are the actual facts, as I know them.
    Now my Interpretation:

    - First of all thanks to the polish hero, Germany has to thank him a lot.

    - If the searched for "Anis Amri" is the terrorist, German authority has made a lot of mistakes (but that's always easy to say afterwards). The man was known, was observed, was to be taken back to Tunesia. He was in Europe since 2010, had a criminal curriculum vitae, you could write a book of and was still able to do this. Locking down these antidemocratic and terroristic elements would be the only solution.

    - so he was not the "unknown Immigrant" from Syria. 99% of them live in peace and thankful of Christian humanity in Germany and Europe. This may be the annoyance of Daesh. Those 99% learn the values of enlightenmend, they don't even see in their medvedial societies at home. And most of them are grateful.

    - so Daesh and rightwingers in Europe are common in discredit the living together.

    My conclusion:
    Let all hate speekers and terrorists, especially muslim ones treat with the complete strength of our laws to give the 99% refugees a chance for a save live in dignity.
     
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    Evidently the new suspect - the one who's supposedly on the run - has been under surveillance by the German plod for a long time: having failed in his asylum claim he has been languishing under observation since last June waiting to be deported because - get this . . . he has so many aliases and such a variety of declared nationalities to his name, they've been trying to decide where to deport him to - although don't ask me why they didn't just send him back to the last safe country through which he travelled prior to arriving in Germany, which procedure I thought was routine! So I think we can safely say that for 6 months he's been biding his time waiting for the right circumstances to hijack a vehicle, kill the driver. and do his devil's work. To come to my point - taking the prolonged surveillance into account, it's been a bit like a bomb disposal unit sitting on a detected bomb waiting for it to explode instead of . . . instead of effing well defusing it. 'Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad' can be brought up-to-date by deleting 'mad' and replacing it with 'stupid'?
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    But dude. It was GWB at the helm. Of course it gets to get the fault of the GOP that they lied around to start a war against Iraq. They get all the credit for that and ISIS,...the fallout of it. This all would not have happened it the US minded their own business.

    1.5 billion people are like that? Well that is "rather rich". Of course I label such a rant as fascist to think THAT many are all like that.

    We aint at war with the followers of Islam. Hence this debunks your claim.

    100's of millions of Muslims vote in their governments in their muslim countries.
    You aware of that?
     
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    I heard something else.
    I heard they knew he was a Tunesian. Since Germany regards Tunesia as a safe country, means he gets to be deported back. Tunesia demands the guy enters with the correct paperwork, as in passport etc. And that is what the guy doesn't have. It is very common thing. Lots of countries refuse the entry of their own civilians who tore up their paperwork by simply not providing new ones. Probably like "is he one of ours? who is he? Can he prove it? No? Ah well, good luck with that". Hence you can not just dump him across the border. The border is closed for people like that. You know... closed bordes?
     
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    Christianity did not reform.
    It got banned out of governmental institutions!

    If it was up to Christianity, than the world would still be flat and we'll be living like the Amish are today.
     
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    If we times aside all idiotic slogans and the stupid blabbering aside for the "solution": Problem:

    The man, who probably comes from Tunisia, should be send back by court order! But Tunisia withdraw to take him back, because Tunisia denies that he is Tunisian!
    It is also unclear how he came to Germany from Tunisia in the end ... about France? Italy? Balkans? England?
    Let's just say he came across England to Germany, then you take him back ... and if so, what do you do then? Tunisia does not take it back!

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    Very well written fact! :thumbsup:
     
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    The whole thing stinks to high heaven if you ask me!
     
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    I think you're all missing the point, which is if they suspected he was going to do something like this - and there sure was enough evidence - they should have shot him dead. Someone who plays with fire deserves to get burnt.
     
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    Yes it does and I agree with you!
    But right this fact of huge problem is simply ignored in any discussion of refugees! It is not only Tunisia which is acting this way, same with Morocco, Algeria and Egypt!

    And no one is having any working solution for it ... the far lefties see as usual no problem with it and the far righties blabber only BS slogans where they even know by their own that it will not work.
     
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    No real evidence, only suspicious at least to be Salafist and Islamist, but it was enough to decide by law that he has to go back to Tunisia ... but as still told: He had no papers to show he is Tunisian, no other evidence given that he really is and Tunisia denied to take him back, because they say he is no Tunisian.
     
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    In other words he's running rings around your authorities? What ought to be worrying you is that Merkel can't now reverse her policy without losing credibility, and there are hundreds of thousands more 'refugees' lining up to come to Germany. Trust me - you ain't seen nothin' yet!
     
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    So does that WMD claim of the US on Iraq.
    But countries get away with it.
     
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    Aside fact that same is happening in the UK and in all other European countries too (and no matter if EU member or not) since decades and not only something special of Germany ...
    Aside fact that this is not only in matter of terror but also in matter of criminality a problem, because there are several countries existing who do not take back their people in such cases and deny that they are citizen of their country in origin ...

    It is more a problem of all Politicians of all parties in all countries from left to right, because all played the 3 monkeys for this problem to see it as real problem and only now it pops up suddenly in public light with this current case!
    What will you do as solution? Putting them into plane and drop them over Tunisia out by parachute? Your plane will be shot down, as your ship will be sunk if you will dump them out in shore line of Tunisia!

    About refugees ... again for your information... of these currently 1.6 million of them in Germany are:

    - 40% not Muslims, but Christians of several confessions and form several countries
    - 30% are Shiite or Alevis or other Islamic minorities and so automatically not possible to be ISIS terrorists, because ISIS = only Sunni = for ISIS the Aryan sort of Islam and the rest of Muslims is for them same worth as Jews were for Nazis!
    - 30% are Sunni

    So over 2/3 of refugees are no suspicious terrorist threat and these about 30% of Sunni are for sure not automatically ISIS ... because every Kurd is for example also Sunni, and all Kurds fight ISIS like hell!

    This should pleas ebe taken in mind all the time, but I do not tell this to try to say that there is a low risk or so ... but question to you. Should we and you in the UK not let in or send back any Syrian Christian refugee?
     

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