Trump's America

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    It's not helpful if it was indeed arson. The article says the cause hasn't been determined.

    It's not President Trump's fault even if it was arson. It's the fault of the person who started the fire.

    It's also not a "Muslim ban"....nor is it permanent. All President Trump is doing with his Executive Order is requiring the enforcement a policy started by President Obama, who designated the countries as terror hot spots.

    These people aren't "banned" - they are being required to wait in place until they can be properly vetted to determine exactly who they are and what might be their intentions.

    What this fire is, however, is very reminiscent of the inbred radical Southern Democrats who burned black churches in the 50's and 60's.

    Yeah - those people were Democrats....just like the ones who wanted to keep slavery in place 100 years earlier.
     
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    That's it - it was just an unlucky coincidence, that the mosque just happened to burst into flames all by itself in the middle of the night, hours after Trump's salvo against the entire religion of Islam. And the moon is made of green cheese.
    Trump most certainly is indirectly to blame. He wants America to be afraid of Muslims. And when people are scared they do things like burn houses of worship.
    Trump is a hatemonger. I'm disgusted.
     
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    Most of the times these things turn out to have been done by leftists in order to point a trembling finger of blame rightward.
     
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    Whose butt did you pull that "fact" out of?
     
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    Welllllll . . . from what I have read it is usually a leftist doing it in order to fake a hate crime incriminating the Right. I would put the odds at three chances to one of it turning out to be a leftist of some sort rather than some crazed Right of Center redneck. But time will tell. Eventually the Left has got to be RIGHT about one of these events. They are due for a 'win' in that category; but mostly it seems to be leftists committing these 'hate' crimes FOR political purposes.

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    The MSM reports the truth from time to time. You can usually tell when it is the truth by the fact that they do the equivalent of burying it on the back page so that their indoctrinated leftist readers/consumers will ignore it.
     
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    They certainly have had a bad run of luck when it comes to finding something to get angry about, and not having it backfire.

    This one smells to high heaven of some triggered lefty trying once again to frame conservatives.
     
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    The treason against the President of the United States and this country is such a pathetic, sad state of affairs. And I want to criticize Canada, England and Germany for speaking out against the President of the United States. If they want ties with the US to stay where they are, they had best approach the relationship with the respect we have for those countries.
     
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    There were 78 attacks on US mosques in 2015, and the number is sure to be higher for last year.
    How many of those attacks have been carried out by "leftists"? A news source please, not your wishful thinking.

    "The Muslim-American community saw a large increase in reported hate crimes since Trump announced his campaign for the presidency in 2015, with a 67 percent surge in crimes against Muslims and Islamic centers. There were at least 257 reported attacks on the Muslim community last year. Since Nov. 8, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said at least 100 attacks against Muslims have been reported."
     
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    Me thinks that as the country becomes so divided and unrecognizable a name change may be in order....Trumpland is too obvious though it would certainly make him happy. Perhaps The Divided States of The Deal?
     
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    You know it's sad what America turning into. If I read you correctly. Now American Allies can't use their own free speech to you.

    Whatever dream you are in. Now its time to wake up. President Trump is important to you. Who currently can't control his own people. Your liberals are far more disrespectful than any foreigner who barely notices.
     
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    I'd put my money on it being an accidental fire, faulty wiring or some such

    CrankyPant, I know you will be very disappointed if it was just a candle left burning or something (do Muslims burn candles?),

    You are delighted to have this news report. Nothing quite makes the day of a leftist like a good Mosque fire where no one gets hurt.
     
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    I agree that our liberals are more disrespectful, I'm seeing their disrespect every waking HOUR since Nov 8. And they have the gall to complain about Donald J. Trump. And I'm not saying "they can't use their own free speech", but that words have consequences. Their words directly inflame the situation even more, and serve to undermine the United States.

    Allies don't do that. Obama did it to you on Brexit, we condemned Obama remember? I expect the same respect from our allies.
     
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    If you want truth. Respect long dead.

    All this American paranoia is on the news, social media, everywhere. Your own self delusions have created this. Blaming the world just make it worse for you.
     
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    I'm disgusted too - by people who are so damned stubborn that they refuse to acknowledge the very clear and very present danger of radical Muslims who will stop at nothing to inflict their way of life upon our Nation.

    No - not all Muslims are killers. However, I assure you that the vast majority of Muslims you foolishly call "moderate" actually do condone violence in the name of spreading Islam. The more you actually research that, the more you will understand that I am speaking the truth.

    All President Trump has done is to require that people coming from designated countries wait in place while their identity is verified and to identify any potential red flags of which we should rightly be aware.

    I don't think it's asking too much for people who stand to reap enormous benefit from being in our country to wait until we're relatively sure they are no threat.

    Do you really believe temporarily inconveniencing people who aren't even Americans is worth all this uproar?

    Is "diversity", "inclusiveness", and "demonstrating our tolerance and humanity" worth more to you than the lives of your own fellow citizens?

    I can understand a lot of things - but I'll never understand something this ridiculous!


    There are people in our country who will do anything they can to discredit President Trump. Those people are worthless scum - and they will even resort to torching a mosque to make it look like it was some sort of "radical right-wing zealot".

    That's exactly the kind of thing a left-wing zealot would do. They HAVE done it in the past....and I have no doubt they'd be responsible this time.

    We've already seen this thing happen in Mississippi last year...I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it turns out to be the exact same scenario now.

    Do you think it's more likely someone with a conservative bent?

    That's not what conservatives do. That's what liberals do, friend.

    You can take that to the bank!


    Take your indignant liberal garbage and put it some place painful.
     
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    Yes, but as I said, eventually in some such incident someday it will turn out to be a Right of Center crank; and at that point the Left will push it to the limit on all their media outlets; and yet it will STILL be just a Right of Center crank who DID NOT go inside the mosque (Islamic terrorist style) and wipe everybody out. It will be a crank who will be captured and sentenced to prison for a decade or so; which is how it should be. So there's really no story here UNLESS it turns out to be ANOTHER attempt by a leftist operative who did it, trying to pin it on the Right. Then it would be an actual News Item of note; but in which case the MSM would ignore it.
     
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    Excellent Points!

    Indonesia has the largest Muslim population on the planet. They are not on the prohibited list. There is no #MuslimBan and they should feel rather silly for repeating that.
     
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    There has been no honest proof that therecis any serious problem with vetting. That was a lot of
    Crapbcreated by trump during the campaign.

    You seem to not care that Black churches were burned in the 50's and 60's or that Southerners tried to keep slavery going as their little favorite peculiar institution. Those people whom burned churches and fought for slavery were first and foremost Sounterners and most likley racists not Democrats. But that is the truth and you appear to not want to admit to the truth that there was only one political party in the South between 1845 and 1965 so yes Southern racists glad no choice but to becbelong to thecDemocratic party until LBJ signed the Civil Rights Bill and made thecSouth go Republican probably forever.

    Admit the truth and it will set you free.
     
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    Fake Hate. A Lefty probably burned it down:

    Why we won’t “help” you?

    We won’t help you because of Obamacare passed on a procedural trick;
    we won’t help because of Fast and Furious;
    we won’t help you because of Benghazi;
    we won’t help you because of the IRS harassing conservatives;
    we won’t help you because of Hillary’s unsecured server;
    we won’t help you because of a gazillion (give or take) executive orders;
    we won’t help you because of your side’s blatant dislike of anyone who loves America.

    But most of all we won’t help you because the great enterprise you wish us to help you with is making idiots of yourselves by shrieking at the top of your lungs at things Trump is doing which you admired when Obama did them;
    or shrieking at the top of your lungs because you didn’t get the candidate you wanted in;
    or shrieking at the top of your lungs because that great progressive future you were so sure was around the corner took an inexplicable detour.

    In other words, what you want help with is beclowning yourselves. And we think you’re doing a fine job of it all on your own. Besides, we need both hands for this big a popcorn bowl.

    http://gunfreezone.net/index.php/2017/01/28/why-we-wont-help-you/
     
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    Good question.

    So far all the burned down churches and mosques have been leftist false flag operations.

    What makes you think this one is different?

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    You mean other than San Berardino, Orlando, Chattanooga, and the rest of the list?
     
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    ...and at other times it's Trump groping women that has the righties trembling as to what he'll do next so they can make excuses.

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    ^^^ Obviously got his degree from Trump University the school of babble.
     

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