Ex-Spy Chief Admits Role In 'Deep State' Intelligence War On Trump

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    How many times are you going to run off topic in this thread when there is already a long thread about this elsewhere? I understand your need for deflection, because this interview is about as damaging to the Deep State as it gets. To top it off, it's POLITICO running it. :roflol:
     
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    lol...........I haven't seen anything this funny since the ancient SNL skits. "JANE!! YOU IGNORANT SLUT! If you didn't spend all your time hopping from one bed to another, we might have another Democrat in the White House! " :roflol:
     
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    Weren't you a birther? Don't quit your day job.
     
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    You have to remember.....their victim status jumps up Right away. Makes for a good double down validation as to why they were created as victims.
     
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    Yeah they just don't like that it was one of their own that filed the suit. Its a reality the Leftness can't get around.
     
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    Your posts don't reflect any serious understanding of either history or government.
     
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    That's easy.

    Trumpsters like their silly little name calling.

    He didn't quote the original article because he never read it.
     
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    You and your ilk were doing the nit picking. That was the whole theme of the OP, falsely portraying a tongue in cheek reference as some sort of bombshell admission.
     
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    you already do insult liberals. :)

    as far as my statements, the amount of stupid conspiracies frim rwers even after the facts sets my position.
     
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    it is bs, live in your reality if you so choose.
     
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    LOL, don't jump in when you don't know what you are talking about. I am not part of this thread, other than to point out the very clearly bias based posts of that one person.
     
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    And that is why you shall never acquire a good education.
     
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    Why are your posts a total flop?
     
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    Margot, in all fairness, of course I studied the entire mess. There was some evidence that showed where Obama was born and in the end, since his mother was born a citizen, it seems in this country the son is allowed to follow her citizenship and kick his father to the curb by denying him his fathers citizenship rights. But you know Democrats America. Kick his father to the curb.
    What I don't understand though is why Democrats blame Trump rather than Philip J Berg who took Obama to court where the issue was never resolved, only booted out of the court.
     
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    Hahahaha.. You obviously don't know squat about US citizenship statutes...
     
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    Margot, you sure love to try to anger posters.
     
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    Read the statutes.Obama's father was in the US on a student visa so the US had jurisdiction.. Nobody kicked his citizenship aside.
     
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    Post those statutes.
     
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    Oh, I thought you claimed to know the laws then on the books when Obama was born. Were Obama born right now, your laws apply. As I said and you tried to convert to smear, I can teach history.
     
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    Glasser: And is also really the subject of this conversation, as of most of your conversations, because it’s very rare that you have somebody who’s emerging—or at least, it would have been, until Donald Trump—to have somebody like you, who’s emerging from a three-decade-long career inside the intelligence community, to play such vocal and public role. Was there any particular sort of tipping point for you that made you think, “Well, I’m going to go public with this”?

    Morell: So, there were really two moments here, right, for me. One was when I first left government, I did a 60 Minutes interview about my life inside CIA, and it’s something the agency thought that was a good thing to do, and I taped most of it before I left the agency. And I really liked it. And I, soon after that, joined CBS News as an on-air commentator on national security issues, and it resonated with me because I saw it in very similar terms to what I used to do for presidents. And I used to help--

    Glasser: And you were the guy who literally gave the presidential daily briefing to George W. Bush, before and after 9/11?

    Morell: Correct. For the entire year of 2001. And then, I had been involved in the publication of the president’s daily brief before that and after that. And of course, I briefed President Obama a lot when I was deputy director.

    So, my fundamental job at the agency, as an analyst and then running the place, was to help the president think about the challenges we face in the world, right? And so, I saw my role on CBS, then, as helping the American people understand these incredibly complex challenges that we face. So, that was the first kind of public stepping out.

    The second was in August of 2016, when I became political, when I endorsed Hillary Clinton with an op-ed in The New York Times, and that was a very difficult decision for me, because I had never been political before. I worked at this nonpolitical agency, bright red line between intelligence and policy, and intelligence and politics. So, I had never played that role before.

    But I was so deeply concerned about what a Trump presidency might look like from a national security perspective, and believed that there was such a gap between Secretary Clinton and Donald Trump with regard to how well they would protect the country, that I thought it extremely important to come out and say that.

    Glasser
    : Okay, so, flash-forward a year. Was that a mistake?

    Morell: So, I don’t think it was a mistake. I think there were downsides to it that I didn’t think about at the time. I was concerned about what is the impact it would have on the agency, right? Very concerned about that, thought that through. But I don’t think I fully thought through the implications.

    And one of the ways I’ve thought about that, Susan, is—okay, how did Donald Trump see this? Right? And from—it’s very important—one of the things we do as intelligence analysts is make sure that our guy—the president—understands the other guy. Right?

    So, let’s put ourselves here in Donald Trump’s shoes. So, what does he see? Right? He sees a former director of CIA and a former director of NSA, Mike Hayden, who I have the greatest respect for, criticizing him and his policies. Right? And he could rightfully have said, “Huh, what’s going on with these intelligence guys?” Right?

    Glasser: It embroiders his narrative.

    Morell: Exactly. And then he sees a former acting director and deputy director of CIA criticizing him and endorsing his opponent. And then he gets his first intelligence briefing, after becoming the Republican nominee, and within 24 to 48 hours, there are leaks out of that that are critical of him and his then-national security advisor, Mike Flynn.

    And so, this stuff starts to build, right? And he must have said to himself, “What is it with these intelligence guys? Are they political?” The current director at the time, John Brennan, during the campaign occasionally would push back on things that Donald Trump had said.

    So, when Trump talked about the Iran nuclear deal being the worst deal in the history of American diplomacy, and he was going to tear it up on the first day—John Brennan came out publicly and said, “That would be an act of folly.” So, he sees current sitting director pushing back on him. Right?

    Then he becomes president, and he’s supposed to be getting a daily brief from the moment he becomes the president-elect. Right? And he doesn’t. And within a few days, there’s leaks about how he’s not taking his briefing. So, he must have thought—right?—that, “Who are these guys? Are these guys out to get me? Is this a political organization? Can I think about them as a political organization when I become president?”

    So, I think there was a significant downside to those of us who became political in that moment. So, if I could have thought of that, would I have ended up in a different place? I don’t know. But it’s something I didn’t think about.

    The interview goes on with him talking about how he is confident that the President is receiving nonpartisan intelligence briefs. Seems to me that he was concerned about this President and national security issues and as a private citizen made his opinion known. He also admits at the time did not fully think about how it would impact the relationship between the President and intelligence community. He also says it was not an easy choice for him to make his views public.

    I see nothing about a deep state out to get Trump. I see concerns from some in the intelligence community about Trump and some of his associates contact with certain Russians. Something these people are paid, trained and do for a living. Worrying about protecting the US from foreign threats.
     
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    Obama was born in 1961.. the laws haven't changed..
     
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    You where there? Do tell.
     
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    Margot, learn the laws on the books in 1961.
     
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    thank you for the advice
     

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