The left Suicidal after Trump's Health Report

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  1. Whaler17

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    They are distraught that he isnt dying. Screaming at the sky. It is amusing I must say.
     
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    Again? They just got over the defeat of Nazism.
     
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    You mean the health report that would have us believe that the man who we can all see is very fat isn't fat?
     
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    Feel the Bern.
     
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    Trump needs to Bern some calories. :smile:
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    the president who cant speak two words without yelling incoherent bullshit has a brain full of holes no matter what you tell me
     
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    That would make him live longer. I thought you guys wanted him dead?
     
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    he'll likely choke on a chicken wing
     
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    He literally believes that burning calories makes you die sooner because humans have a finite amount of energy.

    I don't know if this person is looking forward to Trump dying of his own damn faults but I sure as hell am.
     
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    In fairness, we do. From about the age of 35 - 40, we start dying. So, there is a finite amount of energy one human has, then it converts to food for worms and plants.

    I don't want him to die. He really is doing good for us. Imagine the hill he must climb to get anything done, and yet, he does get things done, even if you don't like what those things are. No one has a good solution for the disparity in living in our country, but you are not alone in wanting that changed. Yes, they should be wealthy, but their power is too great as is their wealth which creates that power. It is not right to take it from them. No one has a good solution for all. That's what is sad.
     
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    Trump is doing ****, He's going to die in a pathetic way, and everyone will remember him as a human being that would have left the world a better place had he died in infancy. I don't give a **** what he does because what he does sucks, and he is personally a vile human being who is good at absolutely nothing.

    And yes, it totally is right to take wealth from the wealthy. They get rich off of the difference between the value of the work their employees perform and the actual wages employees are paid. You can just seize the means of production and cut off their flow of wealth.
     
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    And hand it right on over to someone else, so they can start taking advantage. Hell, they know how the last set did it. They can improve on their methods. bullshit everyone better and take more. "It's for you! It's not for us! If you don't believe us, just ask....us."
     
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    HAHAHA!!! ;)

    I'm not bothered over Trump's health report, and I'm a Democrat.
     
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    Not really buying that they are 'suicidal'. Would take an extreme level of ret@rdation to think he is in 'excellent health'.
     
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    Trump is the one who is suicidal.

    he's likely to die of a massive heart attack.
     
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    What you do is you change the organization entirely. The means of production becomes as commonly owned as a park. Production for exchange must be replaced through automation and cybernetics with asynchronous production for use
     
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    OMG all my friends on the left are killing themselves over this. I cannot believe it. It is almost like something a very angry person completely made up to make themselves feel better. Oh wait it is because no one is killing themselves or thinking about it because of trump's health. Why would you fantasize about people harming themselves because trump was healthy? What sort of person does that make you?
     
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    Yes, I understand. In the end, it's like you own stock in a business who never gives you 51%. It's worthless, though it makes you feel like you own something so you will put out a greater effort. It's a worthless method of moving wealth to another group of greedy people.

    Here, read this:
    And this:
    Those are what you will have, though the government will be "the company". Freedom and better pay......forget it.
     
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    They make an over the counter cream for that.
     
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    You misunderstand. I am also of a quite anarchistic bent. I'm all about decentralizing power and creating autonomous, leaderless collectives.
     
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    No such thing ever happened, nor ever could. Someone, some collection of folks, must be in charge. Pure anarchy, which is what you seem to say you like, cannot last. Nothing will get done. There must be someone or something in charge. What's really ironic to me is, anarchists have to have a leader and form a group which thinks collectively and works as a singularity toward one goal.

    That ain't anarchy. ooo sooory, but the answer is, what is socialism with a dictator?
     
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    Most of the leaderless collectives I've belonged to have trouble figuring out where to eat lunch let alone what work they want to do.

    Consider the leaderless collective that is PF. Were we to meet IRL I would expect fistfights breaking out.
     
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    I'm not interested in looking to the past for inspiration much anymore. The traditions of the dead generations weigh like a nightmare upon the living. We've entered into an irreparable form of social collapse driven by a political-economic system that has an insatiable craving for growth and surplus and is running up against absolute limits. We can never go back. We need to figure out what we can make out of the ashes.

    Consider that a forum for politics is pretty much just a fight club for people that are too scared to fistfight anyway
     
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    18th Brumaire Napoleon Bonaparte. And you say you don't look to the past for inspiration!

    But a quote from Marx deserves one from Adam Smith:

    In about 1777, a young British nobleman named Mr. Sinclair came to Adam Smith with the news of General Burgoyne’s surrender to the patriots of Saratoga or a fort near there.

    “This will be the ruin of the nation,” said Mr. Sinclair.

    “Young man,” said the Dean, Adam Smith, “there is a great deal of ruin in a nation.”

    I do agree about social collapse, but I consider it a spiritual collapse not an economic one. It is nihilism which will be the ruin of this nation, not capitalism.
     
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    The economy is as primal as ****ing and as abstract as mathematics. There's no real divide between spirit and economy. If you look closely, every issue contains every other issue inside of it. It's a mindfucking infinite double reacharound of ontological causality.

    I enjoy pulling extremely disparate sources together into a singular idea. I get intense aesthetic pleasure from combining the ancient and the postmodern. There's something primal and awestriking about the meeting of god and machine.
     

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