The irrational gun control talk after mass shootings

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  1. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    What adequate check is that. And as far as I know the kid had mental problems but was never treated. What law do you propose would have stopped this purchase.
     
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    Not selling assault weapons to any private citizens for a start. There obviously needs to be a strong mental health check on anyone buying any kind of gun.
     
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    yeah um....the fbi flagged this guy as a threat. whats left after that....more flagging? If the goal is to protect people...more flagging wont work. Holding the FBI agents invilved accountable for manslaughter will. Guaranteed.
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    We already do not sell assault weapons to private citizens. The ar15 is not selective fire, so it is not an assault weapon. How do you inforcemental check.
     
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    Setting aside that you are completely wrong about how the law of manslaughter works, tell me how doing so would bring back the 17 children to life?
     
  6. ThelmaMay

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    Then we shouldn't be selling AR 15s to private citizens: it is entirely unnecessary. Just like people have to go to a clinic to get a urine test for a job, people should have to take a personality test to get a gun. People with antisocial or violent tendancies should not have guns.
     
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    A...Im not wrong. B. it would ensure the next time they flag a maniac that they follow through with it. each and every time the FBI droppes the ball and you guys blame guns.
     
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    Tell that to the teenagers doing something about preventing the mass shootings is simply “emotional” and “irrational.” When will the right learn to separate Second Amendment from wanting to make our community safer?

    AR-15s are the preferred weapon of choice for these mass shooters. Handguns won’t do the damage these madmen are seeking. Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland were all caused by a AR-15. This makes the perfect case for why to ban them.

    Handgun deaths are all too common, yes. And unfortunately, we have become numb to these shootings. We want to feel bad, but we do nothing about it.
     
  9. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Would you support such test for all your constitutional rights.
     
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    ....and you just proved yourself irrational and emotional.

    Gun control is unconstitutional.
     
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    Those teenagers ARE emotional and irrational. Gun control won't make our community safer, and it undermines Constitutional rights.

    Our problem is kids being raised without basic discipline or integrity. It's psychotropic drugs taking the place of parenting. It's refusing to implement REAL protective security measures at our schools and then squawking for gun control.

    It's stupidity, plain and simple. That, and intellectual cowardice.
     
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    Then amend the Constitution. People should have to take a personality test to exercise any Constitutional right, dontcha think??
     
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    No, I think the Dems have a correct estimate of the intelligence of their constituency.
     
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    I truly hope not, but you may be right.
     
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    Why does it surprise people that a number of Americans would have an irrational over-reaction to to violent events. Hell, we went collectively nuts after 9/11 and blew up whole countries.

    But this is a cumulative effect - just one after another after another. And the only common denominators are mental health and guns. Since Trump is cutting funds for mental health program, is it surprising that people are getting pissed about the whole affair?

    I'm for private ownership of guns - but the NRA and gun supporters are going to have to start being more flexible or the tide of history is going to wash over them.

    90 children died in school shooting over the entire 8 years of the Obama Administration. In just 13 months, since Trump took office, 101 children have died in school shootings. This is problem that is getting worse. The NRA's stance of, "Tough ****, deal with it," is going to start wearing thin.
     
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    Now what are the statistic on types of guns used in mass shootings? I notice you left that out.
     
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    That's a logical fallacy. Other constitutional rights don't put my fellow Americans at risk.

    Using your logic, there would be no laws and no restrictions on anything.
     
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    Clinging to the 2nd Amendment beyond all reason is irrational and emotional. The founders never evisioned a situation where people would have automatic and semi-automatic weapons and take them into schools, theatres, shopping centers, and business and kill dozens of innoncent people within just minutes: Cruz killed 17 people in 6 minutes. The founders never imagined such a scenario and you damn well know it.

    You don't have respect for the Constitution: you are smirking all the way to hell at it.
     
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  19. Russell Hellein

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    The left talks about guns control all the time. They get more attention when people get killed. Historically such attacks has led to more gun regulation as in the thirties and this will probably be true now. The right and left ill never agree about the need for regulation - the issue is what the broad public in the middle thinks..
     

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