50 PERCENT: Trump Outpaces Obama In Approval Ratings

What inaccurately low polls? On average, the polls got the national numbers right.

 

Then you don't care about the one in the OP.

Based on nothing more than your faith. You don't have any objective measure that backs up this claim.

 

Take away CA and Trump takes the popular vote.

 

"Take away a significant portion of the popular vote and Trump gets . . . the . . . fake popular vote." Got it.

 

The only reason polls were right was because of CA. Without CA, Trump wins the popular vote. That's why our victor goes by the electoral college vote. CA has the biggest word with 55 EV, it just wasn't enough because Trump was more popular in the majority of the states.

 

Also, no, they were not the only ones who got within .1 as far as the national popular vote is concerned.. Lots of others did, including Gravis, IBD/TIPP, McClatchy/Marist, ABC/Washington Post, CBS News/New York Times, Bloomberg, The Economist, Fox, NBC/Wall Street Journal, Reuters and Monmouth.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...presidential-election/?utm_term=.3278e2287e1b

 

No, I do not care about it. It just means Trump's numbers are higher which is not a surprise to me. Most of the country supports the guy because he helps the working class. We're tired of footing the bill for all the lowlifes.

 

Which is a completely nonsense measure, for reasons already given.

You missed the memo. We were talking about the accuracy of the national popular vote.

So national popularity only matters when you are praising Trump. Got it.

 

These polls showed their unreliability after 2016 election. According to almost every poll before 2016, Hillary should have won by a landslide. That is why democrats were shocked when Trump won. Their polls told them he had no chance.

The problem with polls is their bias, but also a large amount of "closet" Trump voters. There are many Trump supporters in this country who are quiet about their support of Trump for a fear of being branded racists and just a pure amount of criticism they would incur. Many of our democratic friends are not very open-minded when it comes to people admitting to support Trump. If they were a bit more accepting of their opposition, perhaps more Trump voters would have admitted to supporting him, which would have resulted in more accurate polls.

 

No, he doesn't help the working class. He placates knee jerk nationalists who don't get basic economics. But that isn't the topic.

 

Polls really only measure popular vote. And they were right on that. There were states that were within a percentage point of one another and Trump got the electoral college votes he needed based on that. The popularity votes were still accurate within a percentage point.

 

Try again, you people keep claiming Trump didn't win the popular vote which you think means he's not as popular as Hillary, yet he won the popular vote in all the right states and the majority of states. In other words, he's unpopular in a state that is currently and constantly breaking federal law and wants to remove itself from the Union because of Trump. Without them, Trump wins the popular vote.

Take away one state out of 50 states, and Trump wins the popular vote. You guys should stop riding CA's coattail in your attempts to act like most of the country doesn't support Trump.

 

Dude, it's no more nonsensical than claiming the country hates Trump all because the most populated state (also referred to as the land of fruits and nuts) mostly hates him. That shitturd state doesn't represent anyone else besides themselves.

 

He didn't win the popular vote. This isn't a "claim." That is basic acknowledgement of reality. Not sure why you refuse to face that. When you have to exclude large chunks of the population in order to "win" the popular vote, sorry, but you are being completely intellectually dishonest at that point. Taking away states from the nation in order to claim a win of the nation is complete nonsense. It is worship, not reason.

 

The country largely disapproves of Trump because the majority of the nation largely disapproves of Trump. Your claim that the dirt under their feet invalidates the majority of the nation is complete insanity.

But we get it. Your argument is that he wins the popular vote if you ignore most of the population. Which is like arguing Clinton won the EC vote if you just ignore most of the EC votes.

 

Fewer senior citizens and those past 45 have landlines than people might think. It got to where only schemers, scammers, beggars, and people in the prison house were calling landlines. Ma Bell's broken pieces wouldn't clean the mess up, so folks with some years on them got rid of the damn things.

Wealthier people in the northeast have the most landlines (for the 911 accuracy), and buy the most bundled services. Poor and average southerners have a cell phone that provides all the comm and internet they get outside of rabbit ears.

You just about got to have the big underground cable to your electric meter, but why let any other cable into your home to suck away your money? You get little value for that extra money going out.

 

I guess I'm basing this on my home town. Most rural people there still have land lines because cells don't have reliable service out there. And most of the older folks do because that is what they are used to having.

 

I don't know anybody under 40 without kids who has their own place with a landline.

 

A lot of southerners get Consumer Cellular because they are the most reasonably priced, and they still speak English.

 

To say that the polls were inaccurate, because they didn't get WI, MI, and PA right isn't fair. WI, MI, and PA were all won by less than 1%. All within the margin of error. The final news cycle was favoring Trump and that made the difference in getting over the hump. Nate Silver gave Trump a 29% chance of winning based on the polls (which is a pretty decent chance) so the people claiming the polls were wrong as a result don't understand polling.

 

Says the hypocrite using a single outlier poll and claiming it's a trend...

 

Freudian slip?

 

The problem was the democrats did not expect such a large turnout for Trump. Many "closet" Trump voters, who never admitted to support him came out in huge numbers. The problem is that these voters did not admit to support him, because of a backlash it would create. I have personally seen democrats end friendships with people who voted for Trump. Many people in this country are not open minded to opposing views. It's not to say that there aren't any republicans who are just as close minded, but Trump was such a controversial figure that many people were afraid openly state their support for a fear of being branded racists and sexists. They also did not want to end friendships over politics.

 

And Regressive Reich-wingers ain't happy with either at the moment, it would seem...

 

A lot of people just won't give shysters and pollsters any of their time. At the word questions, answers, surveys, or polls they treat the caller like a rabid rat.