It’s Not Just ‘Incels’ Who Feel Entitled To Sex

Maybe InCels should start marching for their right to own a blow-up dolly instead of seeking to legalize rape.

 

She might want to date you, but then change her mind and put you in jail.
You never know, there are no modern criteria of rape.
Don't you know the goal of feminist movement - man should be in jail whenever woman wants it.

How about legalizing consensual sex?
You guys either pretend to be naive or extremely out of touch with reality.
The issue is that the government ban on consensual sex that leads to inability to find sexual partner which in turn leads to mass killing

 

When has any government ever suggested banning consensual sex?

I don't know how old you are, but if you are in your 20's, I would guess you are well acquianted with "nightclub culture" and thus would know that it is not at all that difficult even for "lower-tier" guys to find a sexual partner. Only guys who fail are the ones who don't even try

 

Consensual sex for money is illegal.

 

True.

 

Dude, are you an InCel? If so, I kindly and honestly suggest a legitimate support group or counselor.

Consensual sex is already legal. Cite the law that makes it illegal.

 

True, but that's goalpost moving....and I think it should be legalized. It is in Nevada.

There's a work-around; make a porn movie. Probably a license is required. Hire a woman to star in your movie, bang her brains out. Heck, might even be able to open a website and sell it to make some money back. Win-win!

 

https://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/florida-prohibited-consensual-sexual-activity-laws.html

All states criminalize sexual behavior that is coerced, forced, and assaultive. Often, however, they also have laws regulating consensual sex between adults. These laws are rooted in the social norms of the state at the time they were written. For example, several states have laws prohibiting sodomy as "unorthodox" sexual activity. Prostitution is another consensual sexual activity that is commonly outlawed.

 

B.S police make sting operation with sole purpose to put people in jail.
You can tell police about porn movie, they will laugh at you.
Now they even put in jail people who run internet classified boards, under pretense that some of those sex advertisements might involve minors, even though the owner know nothing about it.

 

I don't get laid either. I guarantee that most people who don't get laid have never even heard of what an incel was before this idiot. We're not in support groups. Nor do we feel entitled to anything. I don't blame women for not wanting to **** me just as no woman should blame me for not wanting to **** them. Most of us aren't desperate. In fact, we're the opposite. I don't settle for what I'm not interested in and quite honestly, I'm too lazy and unwilling to change my personality to make myself more attractive to women. I'm not bad looking, I'm very intelligent (at least cognitively), and I make a lot of money, but I guess they don't like the way I think and act. Oh well...I like it. I admit that I watch porn on a daily basis. There's enough videos to last me a lifetime. Maybe this fills the void and without it I would be more desperate and feel the need to make changes, but luckily I don't have to live in the pre-porn era. There's no doubt that the porn industry has made it easier to substitute actual human connections. It might not be best for the survival of the human species, but I never really saw that as my problem. I guess my animal instincts are broken, because isn't the whole point of every animal species to keep on procreating? I don't have those instincts. Maybe someday that'll change, but it is what it is right now. I'm motivated in life by other things right now, many of which have nothing to do with other humans.

 

Or you can hit the club and exchange a drink and a dance for some bedtime.

 

Incel Definition: A person who refuses to maintain cleanliness, throws on yesterdays jeans and t-shirt, can't be bothered to go to the gym and keep in shape and then goes out expecting members of the opposite sex to swoon over their stupid pick up lines. This is especially prevalent among men who seem to think that their fat asses, beer bellies and general uncleanliness will magically attract women somehow.

When I used to go clubbing a lot I would often see the same pathetic losers sitting at the bar trying to hit on women over and over while looking like a fat plumber who just got off work. How ****ing stupid and retarded do you have to be before you figure out that the reason you struck out 100 times in a row isn't anyone's fault but your own. The ability for some people to shift blame to anyone but themselves amazes me sometimes.

 

Yea, the reason they are going to that club and get nothing is people like you. They have no choice. You are the one who do not understand that ban on consensual sex is a violation of human right.
As a result those guys take a gun and shut people around.
Mass shooting is highly prevalent only in U.S. for the reason of involuntary celibate among men.

 

I showered, dressed up in nice clothes, kept in shape at the gym and didn't use tired ass pick up lines and managed just fine hooking up. If you can't be bothered to put a minimum amount of effort in trying to hook up then why would you expect anyone to bother with you?

Next time you go out take a count of how many pathetic losers with fat beer guts and their butt cracks showing out of their way to small pants are sitting at the bars hitting on chicks. They literally believe in their tiny brained heads that all women are going to be attracted to them for...........some reason that only they seem to fathom. Its laughable.

 

Which of these are do you think should be legalized?
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• • Unnatural and lascivious act (section 800.02): This code section does not define the illegal behavior, but it may be applicable to sodomy by a man or a woman. The Supreme Court has ruled, however, that sodomy laws designed to criminalize same-sex sexual conduct is unconstitutional.
  • Breach of peace (section 877.03): Prohibited behavior includes actions that “corrupt public morals, or outrage the sense of public decency, or affect the peace and quiet” of witnesses.
  • Exposure of sex organs (section 800.03): This restriction applies if the offender is in public or on the private property of another person. The nature of the nudity must be vulgar or indecent.
  • Lewd and lascivious behavior (section 798.02): Among other actions, the law bans unmarried couples from living together and engaging in sexual activity.
  • Prostitution, lewd, indecent act (section 796.07): The law applies to prostitution and other “indecent and obscene acts.”
  • HIV exposure (section 384.24): It is unlawful for a person with a sexually transmitted disease to have sex with another person unless that person is told of the disease and agrees to the sexual activity.
• HIV exposure (section 384.24): It is unlawful for a person with a sexually transmitted disease to have sex with another person unless that person is told of the disease and agrees to the sexual activity.

”

 

I think I’m beginning to understand the problem. Thanks for your input.

 

Fair enough. But again, I do think there is a fundamental cultural shift in this stuff - rather than just something related to personal dysfunction. What I mean by that is that 60 years ago, such men would not assume that they had a right to women, so they did not become bitter if it didn't happen. I say 'if', because again - ugly men still managed to find wives at a young age, just like everyone else. So the bitterness thing was quite rare for two reasons: a) the very few ugly men who didn't secure a wife, joined monasteries or became 'careerists', and b) most ugly men did secure a wife.

Which brings us back to these guys just being seduced by the cultural idea of entitlement, instead of just recognising their limitations and joining their local nerd church at age 20, and therein finding a nice 'plain' girl to marry. Had they done so, they'd be having regular sex now, instead of becoming bitter and weird.

 

Nowhere did I say people didn't get laid until marriage.

I said no one EXPECTED to get laid before marriage. No one thought they were ENTITLED to get laid before marriage.

Please try to read what I actually write.

 

That will only happen if the guy is not in her league. It's an ugly truth of the mating game, but go argue that with the Jungle.

FTR ... never attempt to hit on, or foster interest, in a woman who is either a) younger than you, or b) better looking that you. It will almost always end badly. if you're 100% in her league, give it a non-threatening go. if you're better looking than her, and her age or younger, you can be almost as 'aggressive' as you like in your pursuit, and get away with it.

 

Fascinating, please read the whole thing at the link:

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
""""" In the meantime, prior to the sexual revolution, no one expected to get laid until marriage, and pretty much everyone was married by age 25.""""


I'm sorry but

That's one of the most historically inaccurate statements I have seen yet in PF....


Roman orgies= no one expected to get laid until marriage.....GASP! Really?

Then we stroll through the history of the world to find people all over the place having sex without being married....it was NOT invented in 1966...


...and "everyone was married by 25 " ? WTF? No, they weren't, not everyone, some people never got married and some people got married after 25....

...and you'd be wrong again !! My gawd, your view that everyone on earth were "Ozzie and Harriet" is just too bizarre....starting with the FACT that every person on earth did NOT think nor act the same...

People have been having sex before marriage since marriage was invented.

 

You can not be as aggressive as you want or you could get hurt or arrested....

 

Aggressive was put in quotation marks to imply it is not referring to anger/rage, but rather to "forwardness".

 

WTF? YOU are telling me what ANOTHER poster meant ? AND NO "aggressive" means aggressive and forwardness means forwardness and if that is what he meant he should have said forwardness but you don't really know because you are not the other poster.

Speak for yourself....it's all you really know..

 

My reading-comprehension is good enough to differ between figurative- and literal speak. The poster clearly put aggressive inside quotations, which shows it was a matter of non-literal reference. It is not rocket-science and would have been obvious even without the quotations.

PS. Did you just assume her gender?