Venezuela: Maduro Wins Presidential Election, Despite Imperialist Meddling

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  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, and he ordered the relentless bombing of German cities, killing mostly women, children and the elderly.
    THAT was an unforgivable war crime.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump might not bother so much, he is good at handing out sanctions, BUT who knows what the Zionists are up to. I just read this long and thoroughly researched article...

    https://richardedmondson.net/2017/06/07/destabilizing-venezuela-exploring-the-zionist-connection/

    Scratch the surface and you find a Zionist connection!
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What happened here in California? I monitor fuel prices using gas buddy.

    http://www.oaklandgasprices.com/Fremont/index.aspx
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FDR also rounded up Germans and Italians blaming them for WW2. He knew the young fighting men of Germany were at the front so he bombed cities to ash. I was at Schweinfurt Germany and though mostly rebuilt then, still had war damage.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you have Trump posters in yours?
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. But I've been looking for a MAGA cap for two years.
     
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    There'd have been no difference between the two, really, if the US had been invaded and the supply lines to the camps had been bombed.
     
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    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    **** WARNING: Crazy post ****
     
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    How dare I be literate and read histories. I know that's a scary thing for some of the evangelicals on the right, but I don't take everything that's written, especially where "guilt" is concerned, as law. Read a few books, do a little critical thinking. The truth of things exists if you're willing to find it. For everything else, there's mainstream media.
     
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    You're funny.
     
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    Feel free to explain that.
     
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    I guess, you were in Schweinfurt as a visitor or occupier - I was in destroyed Kiel as a native German, ditto Hamburg.
    I don't know about FDR rounding up Germans and Italians. You mean civilians?
    All I know about is the killing of 1.7 million German POWs along the Rhine after the war had ended. It is a taboo subject to this day.
     
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    I was in the American Army from 1962-64. Yes, FDR rounded up civilians and held them in concentration camps in the USA. This is the first I heard of German POWS killed as you tell me. I know our Army would shoot POWS from time to time to keep from holding them but have no numbers.
     
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    Well, the state of Oklahoma fully understands the consequences of depending on one industry for the economy. After the 1980s oil bust... we learned to diversify our economy base. Venezuela went socialist. They went the wrong direction.
     
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    Were you stationed in Germany the whole time or also perhaps in Vietnam?

    Here is a website and a youtube account of the Rhine-Meadows tragedy...

    http://tapnewswire.com/2017/01/the-mass-killing-of-germans-at-the-end-of-ww2/

    A Canadian Historian has also written a book about it, called "Other Losses"...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Losses
     
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    Fracking actually isn't viable when the price of oil drops too low. It costs more money to frack than to just pump it out old school. So if US companies were making profits by fracking (which they wouldn't do it if it wasn't making a profit) then any competent "conventional" operation should have been doing even better.
     
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    I was based first in CA then in GA and shipped to Frankfurt, thence to Schweinfurt. I owned two cars thus was able to drive a lot on weekends in Germany. I flew to Berlin where all in all, I spent about a month there.
     
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    I put no trust in the tapnewswire article. Eisenhower's mother was a Jehovah witness and I was once married to a JW woman and know that religion well. I I find nothing making Eisenhower a jew and he was born a Lutheran which is common in Germany.

    It has to be well known that there are cases of the US troops capturing Germans and then murdering them. But as a general rule, very very doubtful.
     
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    Lucky you, getting to explore Germany without having to fight. You actually never were a fighting soldier, just enjoying the sights.
    Was Berlin already rebuilt at that time?
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's o.k., I randomly grabbed it from the web. There are plenty of other sites who also carry that sad event.
    Religion has nothing to do with it. Just take a look at the recent 20 years.... the Americans have murdered millions in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Yemen etc.... all for fun! As an assortment of Christians!!

    Good for you getting to know the J. W. close up! I find the people quite decent, clean and upright, but a bit too fanatic, and they love to argue and show you stuff in the bible, which you can't argue down... besides, they are always in twos. I believe in reincarnation and that always would get us into arguments. After I told them to leave me alone, they no longer bother me.

    As to Ike being a Jew? I guess not, because apparently only his father was a Jew, and that doesn't count.
    But at the same time a real Jew, Morgenthau, wanted to eradicate the German people. Perhaps that idea encouraged Eisenhower to get started while he had the opportunity by starving to death the best and fittest German men.
    Some years ago I read on the internet that the Nazis did it all wrong with the Jews, they should have done what Ike did.
    The Russians did that, too, with their German POWs. A German soldier, who spent a year in Siberia, told me how they every morning carried some 300 dead corpses outside and dumped them into a large ditch. But he was also saying that the Russians didn't have much food to eat either, at least not during and shortly after the war. Same thing in Germany, no food, no heat, no clothing, no nothing!
    Yes, that is possible, but this genocide on the Rhine Meadows was too massive to be ignored. I personally know a young German SS soldier who was starved there. He was down to only 43 kg, and that by a height of 1.84 m! After that torture he was sent to France for slave labor. He spent three full years there, working as a farm help. At least he got some food there and recovered. Finally, in the fall of 1948 he was allowed to go home to his parents who lived in the British Zone.
     
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    We were not fighting against Germany in 1962-4. Why was I lucky? When the fighting happened, i was 8 or less. Children were not in our army. We trained for combat in Germany. West Berlin was rebuilt but even there one could see signs of the war damage and in East Berlin it was awful.
     
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    LOL... I meant, you were lucky not to have been in Germany to fight. The war was over long ago. You were lucky to be only an eight-year-old in 1945.
    I guess, it was only West-Germany that received money for rebuilding from the Marshal Plan, not the Russian section.
     
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    I can tell now you are very young. Do you want lies or true stories?
    First, Eisenhower spent most of his time in England. His front line Generals were in the field commanding troops.

    Second, I knew Germans serving in the US Army who told me their stories. I was engaged in Berlin to a German girl who told her her stories of life in then East Germany suffering with the Russians.

    I saw war ravaged East Berlin and expect too much of then East Germany was similar in fate. Our bombers had blown up Berlin so a lot of buildings could not be identified. Germans who know where the former buildings were knew but I am trying to say it was very badly damaged.

    Schweinfurt is in Bavaria and was ruined by our bombers. The people did miracles by restoring the community. I give them enormous credit for what they did for their city. I hear we had a lot to do with it with our Marshall Plan money flowing into Germany.

    Third, Hans served in the Army with me and he was from Cologne. Hans never at any time told us the story of the Rhine you have told. And the other Germans in our Army of my age also did not bring this up.

    You say the captured POWS were not fed. I can see that being possible and true. Our own troops at times did not have all that much food.

    Did POWS suffer? Sure they suffered. This country was angry at Hitler and his Armies.

    Beware if one or two stories since they probably are true, but it does not mean it happened all over the area you speak of.

    Think of this. The rails were either gone or damaged. The roads were damaged. It took our ships up to 2 weeks to sail to Europe. Our then airplanes were not very good to carry lots of things. Airplanes today are much faster and larger. It also takes time to fill up ships in America.
     

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