Trump calls for Russia to be reinstated to G-7, threatens allies on trade

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    The Ukes and the Moskhailiy had a long term lease for the port at Sevastopil .
     
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    In the context you used it? I'm throwing the BS flag.

    The "buddy" meme is just an invention of the lazy and gullible. Don't understand why anyone would want to be associated with that low a level of rational thinking.
     
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    I thought they were already there, and had been for a very long time, because of that port. When they saw the coup in Ukraine, and probably know as we do now of US involvement, and the civil war, they knew they had to secure crimea, because of the port there. And did it without their military doing it, and just allowed the citizens there to vote. Not like you had a sovereign nation in ukraine at that time, as the coup and war was going on, with US support.

    So, how do you try to excuse our invasion of the middle east, which was much more violent, murderous and worse than what happened in crimea? Or are you willing to jump head first into hypocrisy?
     
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    LOL, Trump has proposed zero tariffs between the G7 countries.

    This is Trump and the six dwarfs.

    Time for them to put up or shut up.

     
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    Trump is the only dwarf vs the 6 giants. And the US is no stranger to subsidies.
     
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    Bwahahaha! The bizarro world of TDS land!

    So now you are all for tariffs. LOL
     
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    The biggest economic countries always talk about money. lol
     
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    Trump and his economy is nowhere near of what the other 6 bring combined.
     
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    Nowhere near?

    GDP

    18,205 G6 combined

    17,419 US
     
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    All facts.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump companies?

    You’ probably correct.
     
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    The overwhelming majority of Crimeans voted to be a part of Russia, as they had been for centuries.
     
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    The poster I was responding to HATES the actual facts, which always shoot down his/her nonsense....
     
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    That vote was held AFTER thousands of Russian troops had already seized Crimea from Ukraine. It's like voting with a pistol held up to your head. No one who matters in the world recognizes it as a legitimate referendum.
     
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    Some courts have used those ramblings in rulings, banning mooslems and such is believed, but fairer trade is like a prewar "liberal" reading Mein Kampf and only seeing a socialist and not genocide like Obama's jihad being a legitimate tenet to purify the community. He is not like a Moslem with a salami bomb up his butt, he is not telling us one thing and the Soviets he will be more flexible after the election. What Hillary said about not denigrating Satan (others) was not a brain fart, half of what Trump twits is.

    If you don't understand Trump, it is likely the above paragraph will seem insane; sometimes chaos serves a design.
     
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    The Russians were asked to come to Crimea by the ethnic Russians there, the overwhelming majority of the population, actually.
     
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    I don't doubt you are correct on that, but if there had been free and fair open elections, it still probably would have gone Russia's way. My problem is that a vote run by an occupying power on whether to politically join that occupying power is most likely going to be slimy. But I think we would have still gotten the same results.
     
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    Still isn't a legitimate vote by any standard. The UK could invade a disloyal New Hampshire and then hold a sham vote...wouldn't make it a legit vote no matter what the results were. Crimea remains part Ukraine under Russian occupation.
     
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    Russia recorded a government debt equivalent to 12.60 percent of the country's Gross Domestic Product in 2017. Government Debt to GDP in Russia averaged 22.74 percent from 1999 until 2017, reaching an all time high of 92.10 percent in 1999 and a record low of 7.40 percent in 2008.

    ://tradingeconomics.com/russia/government-debt-to-gdp
     
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    Crimea rejoined Russia after an an unconstitutional, illegal coup in Ukraine. Even the current president of Ukraine has asked the courts to rule Yanukovich's removal unconstitutional. That shows you how much legitimacy the Ukrainian coup had.

    Under such conditions, no one should be expected to pledge fealty to such a sham "government". Crimea got out while the getting was good.
     
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    When you fart out constipated crap such as "Obama's jihad" you can only be considered to be spouting out insanities no matter how you wish someone to understand.

    I completely understand chaos as a weapon but it's constant use renders it an uncontrolled continuous act of insanity and no longer a weapon but an unguided missle.
     
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    You can throw all the BS you want but it is you who are gullible, lazy, or unsophisticated to not understand the euphemistic application of "his buddy". Much like Obama is accused of being "friends" with domestic terrorists such Ayers and that crazy assed preachers "Reverand What's His Name".
     
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    You make a mistake Woogs. Fealty is never owed to a government but to a country, in this case Ukraine and not Russia.
     
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    You might like to hear it, but no one that's been around longer than a month will likely even attempt to engage you because of how ridiculous most of your responses are.
     
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    Good talk
     

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