UK: Patient waited 62 hours for ambulance

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  1. navigator2

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    I hope you can make sure your Brexit vote rejection of the EU doesn't get swept under the carpet (sounds like our 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in Mexifornia) and you can tell the rest of them to G T F out............because Merkel and her band of idiots look poised to become another Hitler's reicht with a tad of Baghdad included.
     
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    I'm presuming that you've heard of NATO?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you so much for those words of encouragement; I actually think May now knows that the cat's out of the bag, and it has become a matter of public discussion that her Remain credentials were revealing the rank hypocrisy of the woman's weasel-word 'Brexit means Brexit' mantra: so now that we're on the case to her traitorous intent, she's backing off a bit. I'm afraid that this country of mine has been literally destroyed by liberals and dumb politicians - in that order. Bit like yours is too, isn't it?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for your good wishes, nav - see mine above this one to webrockk. :thumbsup:
     
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    You do realise that in America, some people don't ever get simple procedures because they can't afford them? So wait time = forever.
     
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    Which we did long and long ago by now. How many times since then have you come to OUR aid versus the many times we have come to yours!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Yanks came to our aid in Afghanistan when our soldiers couldn't contain Helmand.
     
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    the UK is not exactly a great example for the rest of Europe, yet it seems to be used alot as a example in the US against welfare

    try finding a example like this in Belgium, i guarantee you wont find one
     
  10. Socialism Works

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    Really? I went to see a neurologist at 12 noon on Tuesday, by 7pm I was in the finest neurological department in Europe. No charge of course.

    I had to wait six weeks to have a small mole removed, fine with me.
     
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    UK finished paying you back several years ago.
     
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    If I understand this correctly, the US pays 100% of Britain's defence? Pays 100% of Germany's defence? Pays 100% of Italy's defence? Pays 100% of Spain's defence? etc.
    Please provide sources for this claim. Thank you.
     
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    The NHS is like the curate's egg - good in parts (of the country) but seriously bad in other parts. It's just a shame that it's abused so much by the feckless and irresponsible.
     
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    In my experience, the NHS is excellent at dealing with urgent cases where the condition is also an NHS priority (and funded accordingly). When I compare the breast cancer treatment my friends have received here in the UK to that of my sister in law in Colorado, in the UK the process was quicker and had less hassle.

    Same with my dad when he fell and broke his hip. Despite being over 15 miles from the nearest hospital, the ambulance arrived within 10 minutes, he was admitted within the hour and had a hip replacement (cemented half-Thompson) later that day. I cannot think how it could have been any better/quicker.

    Same for me when a routine GP consultation showed heart arrhythmia - the battery of tests I was subjected to over the following week caused my head to spin.

    OTOH it took me a while to persuade the NHS to pay for my ACL rebuild. As a patient approaching 50 (at the time) with a sedentary job and few mobility issues (I could run marathons, I just couldn't ski or play contact sports) I was a low priority so it took several weeks to find a surgeon willing to take a punt on me. That said the day surgery went well, the NHS-funded physio went well and the knee is now good as new.
     
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    How long ago was that experience? It has gone downhill rapidly over the last decade and a half, and I suspect that it's a staff morale issue: A&E staff are always overstretched every single weekend because of the boozing culture, and as if workload weren't bad enough, they frequently get assaulted in A&E too by the drunks and druggies. That alone is enough to demoralise anyone, but there's also a culture of bullying from above and below staff levels, and there's the situation where 'the willing horse gets the heavy load', specifically when the dedicated and vocational nursing staff do their own work plus that of the chav nurses who are only in it for the monthly pay cheque and couldn't GAF for the patients . . . and some of patients test the dedication of the professional nurses with their constant unreasonable demands and expectations - I've seen it so many times as a frequent visitor. Then there's the increase in the sheer weight of numbers because of 2-3 decades of uncontrolled immigration. I personally believe the NHS will become dysfunctional in the next 12 months, when good staff leave and are replaced by the chavs. Thank goodness I can afford a private health plan. Just another stage down into the abyss.
     
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    The breast cancer experience, various in the last 5 years or so.

    My dad's experience, about 4 weeks ago. Sadly my dad is an NHS "frequent flyer" these days (a combination of terminal cancer, alzheimers and the more usual conditions of old age) - so far the service has been excellent.

    My diagnosis experience, nearly a decade ago.

    My knee surgery was about 3 years ago.
     
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    Sympathies from me - are you living in the UK?
     
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    Thanks for your sympathies. Yes both I, and my father live in the UK.
     
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    This is not “single payer”. The UK is nationalized healthcare, which is not Single Payer.

    Your comparing apples to transmissions
     
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    BS we do!

    Truth hurts doesn't it.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Who said that?

    We pay the largest percentage and absolute dollars to NATO.

    Try to keep up.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    That's there problem.

    They need to take responsibility for their own lives and stop expecting other people to pay for them.
     
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    There is a nice story where in mid blizzard the ambulance crew abandon their vehicle and hoof it on foot. Humping all the equipment with them. Six feet snow drifts etc.
    While this is one of the examples of an incredibly poor response time it is not an example of poor service.

    Wales is the outback mate. When you live up a mountainside, in bad weather people can't always rescue you.
     
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    You don't pay for our defence mate.

    We on the other hand, do pay for yours.
    Afghanistan cost a fortune.
     
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    America has an excellent health care system. Get real.
     

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