DOUMA: Alleged Chemical Attack – in Depth Briefing from Members of the Working Group on Syria Propag

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  1. Striped Horse

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    The below is an interesting report on the alleged Douma gas attack that unsurprisingly turned out to be a fake, along with an in-depth report on other alleged Syrian nerve agent attacks.

    The report, by a group of academics concerned with events in Syria sheds a poor light on the White Helmets and the Western governments (the US, UK and France in particular - all protagonists for regime change against Assad and all supporting the Syrian Jihadists in one form or another) for accepting at face value allegations of nerve agent attacks prior to all the facts being known.

    https://21stcenturywire.com/2018/08...-working-group-on-syria-propaganda-and-media/
     
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    We always said it was faked didn't we, SH? One for you - :cool: and one for me - :cool: :mrgreen:
     
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    Right now another false flag chemical attack is in the making in Idlib, so Washington can bomb the Syrian forces to support the terrorists. This became obvious when Pompeo gave a warning to Assad that a chemical attack will not be tolerated, when he knows fully well that all the other attacks were faked.

    When the terrorists left the freed areas and went to Idlib, the foreign agents were probably with them.
     
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    I have claimed all of these gas attacks blamed on assad were lies. For him to do this when they would not serve him, but hurt his efforts to take his nation back, was so incoherent as to send up a red flag of a false flag, the size of texas. Critical thought is very valuable.

    Our gov't lies to us. Our intel lies to us. And IMO, only a village idiot accepts what we are told unquestionably. And the US is filled with village idiots, low IQ people. So we cannot blame them, for they cannot help it that their IQs are below average and makes them inept intellects.
     
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    Yep, and with such careless abandon and obvious contempt? At the risk of repeating myself ( :mrgreen: ) it's what dumbing down has all been about, in the sense of 'Make the masses bovine and they'll believe everything we say without question, even without interest. Just keep giving them their bread-and-circuses reality tv, red carpets, soaps and sport, and they won't care about anything else.' 'Harrison Bergeron' eat your heart out!
     
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    Gov't Intel could not care less that much of what they try to pull off is an insult to the basic intelligence of a human being. That is just how arrogant these people have become, or perhaps they just understand how easy it is to fool great masses of people? If propaganda did not work, no one, including advertising agencies would use it.

    Real deal journalism of course is what helped to protect a population from propaganda, but now they are the purveyors of it, for whatever reason.

    So how do you tell genuine journalism from propaganda? Elementary by dear Watson. No standards, no genuine journalism. No investigative reporting, no journalism. Reject genuine whistle blowers? No journalism. Go after publishers that publish the content of whistle blowers? Not journalism.

    The real journalists are, if we are fortunate, 10 percent of all journalists. That leaves room for lies, deception, and propaganda with no truth involved. And the real journalists seldom work for or in MSM. So their exposure is limited, and the propagandists are maximized.
     
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    A few years ago I felt that Al Jazeera was not following the usual MSM spin, but later on that changed. It was noticed by another poster as well.

    I had come across two articles one morning in two separate MSM's that contained sentences that I felt were newsworthy. When I went to copy and past them on a thread, the parts of interest had been edited out.

    In the past years the New York Times had to shut down eight floors, and they are all running at a loss. According to Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, who is
    undoubtedly one of the most brilliant man in the country; the US and European media are now owned by the CIA.

    Pravda anyone?
     
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    Why is no one questioning the findings? This is a media source that seems to be focused more on conspiracy theories than objective truth. For the most part, nothing in the article rises above speculation and questionable assumptions.
     
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    Idlib is the last terrorist stronghold in Syria. According to Lavrov the fighters:

    “conduct raids, attack the positions of the Syrian Army, they have sent about 50 drones from this zone to attack the Russian base in Khmeimim,”

    In the meantime, there is a large clamp down on sites such as Fort Russ, no doubt to suppress news about the coming false flag attack.

    According to reports from the area, the attack will occur between Lattakia's NE and Jisr al Shogur, and will be coordinated by the White Helmets together with Al Nusra and other terrorist groups. Trucks were seen with White Helmets transporting barrels from the Atma factory, which specializes in recycling Chlorine near the Turkish border.

     
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    Very well observed, OM. I noted 'the beginning of the end' of real journalism when I left Fleet Street after 21 years. But then - journalists have been dumbed down too, to an extent? Indeed, only independent and analytical thinkers of the profession itself and the rest of us have escaped it.
     
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    Why does no one question the findings of the mainstream media? Because they have been conditioned over generations to accept what the media tells them, no questions asked. That is how many americans behave.

    Clearly the chemical attacks were staged to make Assad look bad. That is how Mossad and CIA work.
     
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    I have the information. American ships and aircraft, which are in the Persian Gulf, ready to launch a missile and bomb attack on the Syrian army. They will make a false chemical attack in Idlib. The Russian military today are together with the Syrian military. If Russian soldiers are killed, NATO ships and aircraft will be attacked by hypersonic missiles.
     
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    You are not addressing the question I asked. Why do you accept this as fact?
     
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    NEWSFLASH!

    MUST SEE TV!



    Talk about SURREALISM!

    WAKE UP!!!! Talpa is the name of the town, could this be equated to the Talpiot Program of ISRAHELL?
     
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    I'm buying me a parasol!
     
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    LOL! :laughing:
     
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    Paul McKeigue, Jake Mason, David Miller, Piers Robinson are all pro Assad. Are any of them in Syria?
     
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    The Working Group on Syria Propaganda and Media

    Brian Whitaker, former Middle East editor of the Guardian wrote on 26 February 2018 that the group (which then numbered three professors, two lecturers and three postgraduate researchers) seemed "more like a propaganda exercise than a serious academic project." Two days later Jonathan Cook write in an article entitled The Authoritarians Who Silence Syria Questions that Whitaker was "using every ploy in the misdirection and circular logic playbook to discredit those who commit thought crimes on Syria, by raising questions both about what is really happening there and about whether we can trust the corporate media consensus banging the regime-change drum."[2]

    The Times wrote that the group was "spreading pro-Assad disinformation". Tim Hayward wrote that "a question thoughtful readers will likely be asking is why The Times has gone the trouble it has to give such prominence to a small group of critical academics."
     
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    Because I see no advantage to Assad gassing his own children. What could possibly be gained, especially when the tide is turning in his favor.

    Moreover, I understand the deception being employed by the criminal elements in the Israeli and US governments. They are masters of deception, and frequently employ that age-old military tactic.
     
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    Syria was broken, impoverished and overpopulated by 2005. This was an ethnic cleansing to get rid of Syrian Sunnis. Look at the 7 years BEFORE Assad began killing protesters.
     
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    Based on your answer, you're saying that you believe it because it fits your biases. I have my biases as well, but the information presented on that web site in speculation only--conspiracy theory. We can't say it's true or not true. We can only believe or not believe.

    In my world of conspiracy theories, I have to start with "Why Syria"? What does Syria have to do with Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and the US? The answer seems to have something to do with the flow of oil and gas. In other words, $$$. When it comes to money, people lose all sense of ethics and morality. I don't trust Assad any more than the others.
     
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    Dr. Roberts is called a loony tunes tin foil hatter. And yet if you check his history and credentials, he is anything but that. But when you cite what reality is, and it does not match with what our gov't and MSM tells us, of course you will be called a tin foil hatter. ha ha.

    No one got to where Dr. Roberts was, his positions, by being a nut. He, unlike many political partisans, and novices, actually understands this system, all too well. And he voices it. MSM blacks him out as they do anyone who is actually connected to reality and must dismiss the propaganda, and tell the People what reality actually looks like. He isn't owned by anyone, while everyone else you listen to in MSM is. I give him great credibility, given his experience and positions held. Just as I do VIPS. And greenwald. A rare group of people, IMO. Honest and with great integrity, and interested in the truth. MSM isn't and neither is our gov't.
     
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    Yep, it looks like a big showdown in Idlib as the neocons agitate for a major strike against Assad. I see that the Russians have 20 naval vessels in the area, including subs, and have bolstered their air defence capability in Syria. It could all kick-off.

    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/as-the-borg-turns/
     
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