FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump

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  1. ThorInc

    ThorInc Banned

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    Just an FYI, self proclaimed intelligence over the net is just that. In addition, madness and intelligence are also linked in many.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As important as all those CRIMES are, it is also important to remember him pointing his finger at us and saying, I did not have sexual relations with Miss Luinski. Trump has lied to his hearts content, and ruined reality, so that only what he says is true to his fans. This is a dangerous trend.

    I think deep down you KNOW this.

    Yes, trhe Trump santa claus tax cut, as per usual, straps the Dems next time they gain power. This is the pattern. DEFICITS matter, then, Republican power, spend it all. SO THAT, the next time Dems gain power, there is no money for social advancements.
     
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    Saying he acts like a “Soviet” doesn’t have anything to do with economics, the man was raised, educated, and worked under the regime, it is highly unlikely that even if he supported pure capitalism that he would also support the Ukraine in NATO…

    “Putin was born in Leningrad during the Soviet Union. He studied law at Leningrad State University, graduating in 1975.[6] Putin was a KGB foreign intelligence officer for 16 years, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel before resigning in 1991 to enter politics in Saint Petersburg.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-clinton-ukraine/hillary-clinton-tells-ukraine-door-to-nato-open-idUSTRE6605IS20100703

    Check the date there, then consider what happened next, and what Putin had to say about the Ukraine in NATO.
     
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    Tin foil hat time?

    But truthfully is there not also a GOP deep state doing the same thing to the Democrats?
     
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    Sticking with the “truthfully” part:

    http://articles.latimes.com/2002/jun/12/nation/na-clinton12

    I am sure there are, it is human nature to be childish.

    If we are discussing why Putin didn’t want Clinton, it probably has more to do with NATO; it would be like if Mexico tried to join the Warsaw Pact.
     
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    You know, I just doubt that his average voter thinks that trump's lies, which must not be confused with his "take" on reality, have changed their reality, or anyone's but those with a sub par IQ. This is what I seem to know, "deep down". But that is my observation of what appears to be reality. Is my observation closer to truth, or is yours? Of course I think that my own is. And until I can see the evidence that you are using to support your position, my own opinion on this issue will not change.

    If trump lied about important things, illegal activity, crimes, than I want him to get what blind justice would yield. And I dunno if he has or not, that can be taken to a court of law to convict. I just do not know. There is so much partisanship going on, which is necessarily always spin, half truths, full out lies, and also facts. But the facts are mixed in with the spin, the propaganda, and to sort those out is not what most people do, or even want to do, if you are a member of one of the tribes. Those of us who are not in a tribe just seem to be able to get closer to the truth, closer to actual reality. Or at least our perceptions are not as badly colored by bias that is intrinsic to partisanship. A bias that does not allow facts to speak for themselves. And a bias that will refuse to sort the facts from the spin, the half truths, the outright lies, and that will state opinion as fact.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    MOST likely, we DETERMINE Trump is an idiot, then, we FIND, create, whatever, the means to oust him. WE DONT LIKE HIS LEADERSHIP, and it is dangerous to our union.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am telling truth, this is human nature.
     
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    I agree.

    That is exactly what is happening.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now lets not forget, he is guilty of MANY CRIMES too. Pick one.
     
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    Hmm...

    I can't think of one.
     
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    Sorry, ALLEGED crimes. Till he go bye bye.
     
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    CNN, NBC, CBS, NYT, whatever nonsense you were using, and all the other fake news outlets you liberals rely on...
     
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    No ... intelligent observers are able to see the Deep State. Those in the middle of the bell curve cannot.
     
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    It's going to be a bit tricky though isn't it, proving that the same funds that went to the GOP from the NRA are in fact the Torshin funds... seeing that the NRA is the biggest contributor to the GOP.

    They're going to have to find more evidence than money in and out imo... instructions for specific use of funds
     
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    Yes, it quite the spider web.........let's see how well they are able to do this. Either way, if the rubles were ultimately intended for Trump and they passed through the NRA to him, every American should be deathly concerned about it.
     
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    I think there are many countries who contribute to the American election via other parties, honestly I think it naive to believe this is an isolated incident if it is indeed the case
     
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    Regardless, if this is the case Americans should be deathly concerned as their interests are being co-opted by a foreign adversarial power that does not have the American citizen as their primary concern. It's corruption period.
     
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    There's a lot of corruption in your elections, always have been, why now? Why is this an issue now?
     
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    Because there is likely a Manchurian Candidate in the WH, it's a National Security and Democracy threat of the highest level.
     
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    maybe... where is the evidence though... Mueller needs to cough something up now because are we really going to go though 4 years of Trumps presidency with a public conviction and no evidence... we're halfway already
     
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    Russia used every major social media platform to help elect and support Trump, says sweeping report prepared for the Senate


    The report, a draft of which was obtained by The Washington Post, provides the most comprehensive analysis yet of Russia��s disinformation campaign around the 2016 election.

    The research offers new details on how Russians working at the Internet Research Agency, which U.S. officials have charged with criminal offenses for interfering in the 2016 campaign, sliced Americans into key interest groups for the purpose of targeting messages on nearly all social media platforms, including Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. These efforts shifted over time, peaking at key political moments, such as presidential debates or party conventions, the report found.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...l_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk=1
     
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    It's a spider web or as McCain said a centipede, it will take time as it involves the Russian Mob and Government, one and the same BTW.
     
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    Thank you for confirming that you are unable to produce any credible nonpartisan sources to support your asinine "deep state" allegation.

    FTR anyone can PRETEND to be anything on the internet. It actually downgrades their credibility when they make claims of prowess that the vacuous content of their posts exposes as fallacious.
     

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