Republicans boycott California

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  1. Hadrian's Hammer

    Hadrian's Hammer Banned

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    Yeah, I've seen some major "hate" comments on the interweb trashing Cali and it's fellow citizens. It never ceases to amaze me, the vitriol. Sad!
     
  2. drluggit

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    Fun stuff. Your response is... nana nana boo boo?? I don't think you either understood the comment. If CA leaves, CA is dependent on a ton of basic resources from other states, including water and power. That wouldn't be Trump turning off the power and water for all of us, would it? I don't live in CA.
     
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    Hahaha...CA isn’t going anywhere...my lord
     
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    Me neither.
    Actually, California gets much of its water from Nevada and that would continue.
     
  5. drluggit

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    I think it depends. Especially if all that water were redirected to Las Vegas...
     
  6. ibobbrob

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    It comes from Las Vegas. I forget the name of the lake. Lake Mead?
     
  7. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Governor Brown issued plan that the power grid would be merged into one system across the West in order to address global warming. Republicans hate California but they must also hate Hawaii/ Oregon/ Washington Democratic dominance.
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can you provide citation that "California get much of its water from Nevada", please.
     
  9. drluggit

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    You're referring to the Colorado river. If lake Mead didn't exist, it would continue into CA but run underground to the Sea of Cortez...

    Without getting entirely too legalese here, right now, states from the watershed that support eh Colorado river have signed away their water rights to supply SoCal with water, ie the damn that makes Lake Mead. If CA became a foreign nation, Those agreements would become null and void, unless additional international treaty rights were agreed to. So, as soon as CA become Calexico, the US obligations to continue to support water access to them would end. Nevada would also have to leave which clearly they would not. Calexico would become entirely dependent on water from the US to support their vast agribusiness needs. (Unless suddenly they started investing in desalinization which seems unlikely as CA resident don't seem to understand that they have more water on their coast available to them then all the water from the Rockies could ever provide them. But hey, short sighted is what liberal California is all about.
     
  10. carlosofcali

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    But these California haters must also hate all West Coast states except Alaska. It is a Democratic stronghold from Canada to Mexico; not Red states on West Coast.
     
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    FYI:
    The water of the Colorado River is federal water not state water.

    The Colorado River falls under the jurisdiction of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

    California better get back to being Americans or President Trump as Commander in Chief of the military could declare a national emergency and cut off California from Colorado river water.
     
  12. drluggit

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    A few good earthquakes could isolate the vast majority of democratic leaning populations out there. Left with the potential for tenuous land bridges back to the mainland... Faced with starvation of both food, water, fuel, what then?
     
  13. carlosofcali

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    You seem to be a victim of micro thinking rather than macroanalysis. Look how the Western states vote. Do you think Nevada can survive without California?
     
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  14. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Remind again, you live in California, right?
     
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    Unfortunately I do live in the totalitarian state of California and remember when the federal government took 1/2 of the Colorado River water that was going to Southern California and gave it to the great state of Arizona.
     
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    Yes, the entire left coast, from Canada to Mexico, is home to the radical left, and many nuts and fruits. Go 50 miles or so inland however, ............. Though the coast pretty much runs things. If we could just slice off 50 to 100 miles of coastline things would be great. We could easily throw in Hawaii to sweeten the deal.
     
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    Than you should know better about the water system here. We get no water from any other state and share only one river [Colorado]. So long as we get winter rainfall and Sierra snowpack California does fine. Years of drought and much above average temperatures harm not only California but the entire world.
     
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    It's amazing to me how we got to a place in this country where people literally hate another person just because of their politics, just because that person thinks differently. Guess we've become the United States of Intolerance.
    Conservatives often ask me how I can stand living among so many liberals (I live in MA). I tell them it's not an issue because it doesn't bother me that others think differently from me. I just live MY life and no amount of liberals are going to affect how I go about living my life. And I'm certainly not going to spend one second wasting time whining about how liberals think. They are free to have their opinions just as I am.
     
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    But it's red counties in California who control the water from the snowpacks.
     
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    Yes. I expect they would do just fine without CA. But hey, you seem to self identify with micro... who are we to judge?
     
  21. carlosofcali

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    Republicans and Democrats lived quite well with each other in California. The political party of mayors/ sheriffs never even came up. But the GOP outside California went radically into an orbit of far right nonsense. Old time Republicans in California now vote for Democrats [ie. Orange county].
     
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    The counties don't control water! :laughing:
     
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    I suppose that most of us actually think this way. I don't "hate" folks who think differently from me. I challenge that what they believe is something that is appropriate to demand of the rest of us. Isn't that actually the conflict here?

    I suppose that liberals don't want to be indoctrinated in religious morality than a conservative wants to be indoctrinated in amoral tyranny.

    So, I adopt live, let live. Right up to the point where someone demands that government require me to adopt their insidious stupidity. That's what and why tyranny is an outcome folks do actually work against, and actively oppose. And isn't that really what we're discussing here? When the left push the yoke of tyranny on the rest of us without our consent?
     
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    You speak as though California is productive because of Democrat policies. climate, topography, ports, all have nothing to do with politics. What is remarkable is California is productive in spite of Democrat policies. Backward in almost every infrastructure metric. William mulholland wouldn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of putting in the LA Aqueduct today, same goes for the state water project and the lakes and reservoirs. California feeding the nation is a true statement, but the water that feeds the Central Valley has been given to a minnow, resulting in farmers sinking deep wells into the aquifer, causing massive subsidence and residential wells to go dry. Take a look at east porterville as an example. 2/3 of all precipitation that falls on the state falls north of Sacramento but 2/3 of the people live south of Sacramento. You have to either take the water to the people, or take the people to the water, yet we are removing water retention in this state faster than we are replacing it.

    So, yeah, you hold the keys to the kingdom, but your mistake is believing you created it.
     
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    Not yet. It doesn't seem like a successful strategy to alienate those who are so necessary for your continued survival....
     

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