UN commission says Israel committed war crimes during Gaza border protests. <<MOD WARNING>>

The IDF is the most ethical army in world, say military experts

 

Of course. These be the soft targets they can only get to.

 

I can’t speak for other poster. Well, I could but im not going to. But very clearly, anti-Semitic people can post criticisms of Israel’s policy, and obviously wouldn’t acknowledge their contribution. This doesn’t equate to criticism of policy meaning anti-semitism.

This board, and most of politics is spent criticizing an event, person or thing. That’s my generalized answer for why acknowledgement aren’t covered. Case in point, even your old thread about israel’s Drugs that may cure cancer (I’m a skeptic of this), wasn’t the highlight of the thread, it was to criticize those that oppose them.

That said, I don’t think the burden of proof is on someone to prove they’re not anti-Semitic. The burden lies with the accuser.

 

And after 50 pages we are back to trying to trash the source, insults and accusations against anyone who does not bend over for Israel, delusion of adequacy from certain posters and absolutely no rebuttal of the fact that the IDF has been targeting Children, the disabled, health workers and journalists.

 

I disagree that anything is better than what Palestinians have. Did you know, 40% of the countries in the world are poorer than Palestine, yet Its the 3rd largest aid recipient?

They’ve no reasons to complain, I say.

 

50 pages? Here’s to another 50 pages of not’n!

 

Thank you for proving my point as only you can!

 

Your thread, you’re masterfully keeping it alive

 

When You are a nameless person on the web, anti-Semitism is rather obvious with lots of people, but nobody cares.
Just like Muslims claiming they are Christian, or a black guy claiming he is white.
Nothing can be proven either way.

 

Oh Dutch for once I am tempted to value your opinion!

 

This is a video to watch. It speaks about the attempt to destroy Ilhan Omar from within the Democratic party and others, the way she withstood it and the enormous support she received leading to a potential change in public opinion and particularly American Jews away from support of Israel, questioning whether the new young Democrats are bringing some change, (and democracy), to the US. They then speak to Gideon Levy about the subject of this thread, the UN report on the deliberate killing of unarmed and not dangerous children, the disabled, the press and medics who could be absolutely no threat to them. They ask how this was greeted in Israel. Gideon Levy says it was hardly mentioned. He says Israeli's now are so brainwashed that any criticism is untrue but even worse he says that to Israeli's a Palestinian life is cheap. It matters nothing to them how many they kill. He speaks about a blind man who was ill in his bed. The IDF broke in and started beating him up in his bed. He said he thought surely now the Israeli people will start to see that this is unacceptable, here they are beating up a sick blind man in his bed, surely they will not think this is how to treat another human being, but nothing. It also gives a short quote of the UN woman saying that Israel's killing of the disabled, of children, of medics the press and others had been found to be intentional killing and how the US also is not talking about this. When listening it appeared to me that the US at the moment seems to be at the opposite end of this drama than the UK. In the UK they are now starting to call anyone who believes the Palestinians are human and deserve the same respect and rights as all other human beings as antisemetic whereas it may be that this is reaching a moment in the US where doing that is about to end. Watch it, It is good.

 

You are carefully and intentionally sidestepping the most important part.

The Muslims have written orders from God to kill the Jews.

The Jews cannot let them run wild through their cities.

They have dealt with this for 1400 years, and know the story.

They are playing on the emotions of the general public without putting in all the info.

 

crossfire is just a term.

It does not mean the pallies and Jews are shooting at each other.

It means they are caught up in the turmoil and suffer because they can easily be infiltrated by pallie Muslims,
and breach security.
So a certain amount of distrust is there.

 

And it hasn't been shown this is not about Muslims and Jews.

In fact just the opposite.


Muslims have orders from God to kill the Jews.

 

Petard Hoisted!

 

To lame.

 

And the Christian pallies wouldn't have any problem at all if it was not for the Muslims.
You just cannot tell them apart visually.

 

both sides have committed what could be considered war crimes, when people live in fear most of their lives

I hope it's not true, but if it is, punish those responsible

 

Adults?

Did you know, Eritrea is four times poorer than Palestine, yet Palestine receives thirteen times more aid than Eritrea.

Let adult splain to me why?

 

...Israel fought an "exemplary campaign" during the Gaza conflict last year, an independent group of former military leaders has concluded.

A report by the High Level Military Group (HLMG), made up of 11 former military personnel from five continents and a former UN war crimes prosecutor, was compiled this summer after six fact-finding trips.

It was produced following discussions with members of the Israeli government including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, briefings from Israeli commanders who led ground operations, and investigations into Hamas's methods of warfare and propaganda.

The former officials, who held top positions in the American, British, German, Italian, Spanish, French, Indian, Australian and Colombian defence forces, said they had a level of access that was "undoubtedly in excess of what our own countries would afford in similar circumstances".

As well as stating that Israel operated "within the parameters of the Law of Armed Conflict" and had "in some respects exceeded the highest standards we set for our own nations' militaries", the group unanimously agreed that the military response was reasonable.

"No country would accept the threat against its civilian population that these rockets present to Israeli population centres," the report said.

"Israel's efforts were entirely justified, appropriately conceived and lawfully carried out, and necessary in the defence of that country's national security."

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/t...al-army-in-world-say-military-experts-1.64004

 

To Hamas, children, disabled, health workers and the press ARE combatants.
noun - a person or nation engaged in fighting during a war.

Journalists in Gaza are engaged in this war. This is largely a propaganda
war, fought on television, much like the latter stage of the Vietnam War.
If you are not supportive of the war then you will not be welcomed back.
You must show Israeli in a bad light and not bring Hamas' own behavior into
disrepute.

Children and disabled are also a part of this propaganda war. Putting the
young and helpless in harm's way as human shields and victim symbols has
long been a Jihadi tactic. It protect Hamas from the Israel defense force and
has proven quite effective. Gaza children are employed to help internationalize
the conflict - Hamas therefor doesn't need to negotiate in good faith with Israel.

In quite egregious case Hamas actually shot one of their own children and used
him as an example of the IDF's tactics.

 

The post I replied to did bring it up.

 

Sorry sir, Israel has NOT "been targeting Children, the disabled, health workers and journalists."
You made the accusation, you prove it. And you provide the context to the conflict as well,
ie the Hamas declaration of the destruction of Israel and how should Israel respond to this.

 

Concerned about this issue, the High Level Military Group (HLMG), a widely successful project sponsored by the Friends of Israel Initiative, has decided to study the threat by Hezbollah on the ground and how Israel is prepared to confront a new escalation of hostilities.

 

Please understand debate is about distinction, I did not make any accusation the United Nations made the accusation. Understand the distinction?