Trump ending fetal tissue research by federal scientists

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  1. Renee

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    That’s called homicide and is against the law so stop being so hysterical
     
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    Then don’t ever throw away an acorn because it’s destiny is to become an oak tree
     
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    If you’re a pro Trump you’re missing a lot (Ducking)
     
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    Another point I will discredit is the fact that you think the stem cells from embryos and adults are used for the same things. They are not.
     
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    Your source is a BLOG and it is linked to a GENERAL DISCUSSION FORUM rather than any legitimate scientific body.
     
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    So? We are talking about the life cycle now, right? Or are we back to 'when does a clump of cells become a 'fetus'? Pick a lane please.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Steps to knowledge...

    1) Go to library
    2) Check out biology book.
    3) Turn to page about human life cycle
    4) Learn that the human life cycle begins at conception and ends with natural death.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    And it shouldn't be her decision to kill her unborn child.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course it makes a difference to you. You would not marry a goat (or maybe you would - would you ?) - a goat is clump of cells - a woman is a clump of cells - clearly there are some characteristics about some clumps of cells that you favor over others.

    Perhaps the above is not the best example but, you get the point. Some clumps of cells have a brain - some do not. Without those brain wielding clumps of cells you would not enjoy the quality of life that you do ... surely this makes some difference to you.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1) Go to the library
    2) Check out a Philosophy book containing logical fallacies and a description of what constitutes a valid argument
    3) Learn that the a human - and a "human life cycle" are different things = one is a human (noun) the other is not (descriptive adjective) and that conflating the two is logical fallacy

    Next

    1) Go to library and check out a biology book
    2) Turn to the pages (note the plural) that describe the 5 different scientific perspective on "when human life begins": Metabolic, Genetic, Embryological, Neurological, Ecological
    3) Note that only one of the 5 puts the "beginning" at conception
    4) Hearken back to your learning's on what logical fallacy - and what constitutes a valid argument is - and realize that your claim is fallacious gibberish and simply false.
     
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    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    Way off topic. We aren't talking about Philosophy.
    So, human life does begin at conception.

    There! You learned something.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That you do not realize that the question "when does life begin" is a Philosophical question is perhaps part of the reason for the failure of your argument (not that you made one).

    It is also important to realize that your naked claim was logical fallacy = a claim -in of itself is not an argument - nor was the "appeal to authority".

    What is even more nonsensical is that the authority you tried to appeal to (Biology Textbook) does not say what you claim it does.

    What is more nonsensical yet - and in fact foolish - is maintaining this silly claim after being shown that your claim is false.

    You realize that we are getting close to the definition of "hopeless" ?
     
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    What the.... WHY DOES THIS MATTER?!

    Only to the unscientific, ignorant people would this ever make a difference.

    Not alive human, stem cells, use them all to figure **** out
     

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