Biden Won’t Extend Student Loan Relief And Confirms Student Loan Payments Restart February 1

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Credit where credit is due - but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
     
  2. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you researched all 100 schools in my link and determined that none of them provide a valuable education?
     
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    where did I say that, plenty of good schools out there and bad ones... Trump university was a bad one as an example
     
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    I agree. Not all degrees are worth what colleges charge for them. The government knows this, the data is freely available for everyone to see. And yet they continue to lend money to students who are unlikely to pay them back. A private institution with such poor lending practices would quickly go belly up. Some might even be accused of predatory lending practices. But like many things, when the government does it, it's apparently okay.

    Here's an article I found on the topic. It lists some outrageously expensive degrees that makes almost nothing for graduates.

    https://hechingerreport.org/data-ab...ossible-to-calculate-the-return-on-education/
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Let's face, academia is in bed with the Dems/Left/Progs and know their paychecks rely on them pumping more and more money into they system so they can up their tuitions and their paychecks. And of course they payback with their indoctrination of their students, public writings and bashings of Rep/Right/Cons. They are in bed together.
     
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    You've been asking and asking for helpful links that HS students can use to find out what they should study and where they should study it. I provide you a link of very affordable schools and you come back with "not all schools are good."

    There are also sites where you can search individual schools to see what sort of reputation they have.

    This is very, very basic research.
     
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    nope, I asked where the stats were on specific schools and degrees, like how many graduated, how many got good jobs after, ect...
     
  8. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why is it you ask things like this?

    These students aren't in debt because they don't have the best info.

    They are in this situation because they didn't do the bare minimum of research.
     
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    I gave you the link. It's called 'google'. Help your kids out by making the effort.
     
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    Are you saying they're careless with money (because they think it's someone else's problem, or something)? Well that would explain why middle and working class kids who really can't afford to study Sociology, keep doing it. This is why it's SO important for parents to step up.
     
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    Exactly. It's such fundamental and obvious stuff .. it defies reason to think a parent would be oblivious.
     
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    So what? Overpriced goods and services are everywhere - but no one is forced to buy them.

    The problem in the scenario you present is the BUYER, not the seller.
     
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    If you found this information, so can any parent.
     
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    The data is out there. The data was there in the 80s, when my siblings and I were out there, looking for colleges. It wasn’t as easy to find, but the library could find almost anything.
     
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    What's the fastest way to build a dependent underclass?

    Division, disenfranchisment, destruction of survival sense ('you don't need to do that kind of thinking anymore .. we'll take care of you'), increasing the difficulty factor in acquiring and retaining private property and private enterprise, etc etc. Encouraging working and middle class kids to borrow a mortgage-sized chunk of money for something that will never pay for itself, is a masterstroke. The parents who play into that are either inconceivably stupid and vain, or onboard with the masterplan.
     
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    It's ridiculously easy to find now. Even six or so years ago (when my eldest was choosing a course), it was somewhat more difficult than it is now - not that it stopped us putting a good two years of watching and researching into it before he made his final decision.
     
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    because the poster said they were easy to find and insinuated any parent is bad unless they do - so I figured if he had links, be nice to share
     
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    so hard for you to find, you did want to look them up, I thought you already knew, guess not, so we can move on

    I do not have a child entering college, i just thought if you had them, be nice to see them for others
     
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    young people careless with money... never
     
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    you don't get loans that can't be bk'd for anything else, this makes the seller\bank more cautious
     
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    they have advisors in the schools that help these children, they should not be scamming them

    no different from scamming the elderly
     
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    Freshie, the information sought is going to be different for every child and every family. WTF are you talking about?
     
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    They are not scamming, they are selling a product. Parents are the first and last word on 'advising' .. there should never be a need for a kid to seek the advice of the person selling the product. That's a patently terrible idea.
     
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    It is easy to find.

    And crappy parents make crappy decisions.

    It's OK to admit this.
     
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    Mine aren't. Plenty of their friends aren't either.

    Carelessness is a function of how they were raised. If they're careless with money at 18, it's likely they have parents who aren't going to care much about their future ability to feed themselves (ie, pay off loans, buy a house, raise a family).
     
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