Jan 6 committee votes to subpoena Donald Trump

The secret service picked up hundreds of messages between people like Roger Stone and the Proud Boys, with whom he has been photographed.
There were also messages between groups and clear evidence Steve Bannon know what was going to happen.
There was coordinated positioning around the Capitol with a large group of terrorists gathered outside the metal detectors waiting to be able to be let in.
There was an armed terrorist sitting in a tree for heavens saké. If you saw the hearing last night there were some of those messages planning the attack on your Constitution shown .
The attack had been planned days if not weeks in advance.

 

Some of the incriminating preplanned communications unearthed recently, for example.
New voluntary witnesses .

 

He probably won't. But, he might. Ya never know.

 

I doubt he will.
Nor only is he an empty bigmouth, he has nothing to say when reality hits him in the face.
A total coward.

 

He's correct, correlation/association isn't proof of guilt, per se, but that's not the point. The 1/6 committee is on a fact finding mission.

The problem with Stone's reply is that 1/6 is not accusing him of anything, he is not on trial. all he has to do is just answer questions, which he didn't, he pled the 5th, so apparently he thought he was on trial. Now, the committee could have told him that because he was pardoned, his testimony couldn't be used against him, the committee didn't want to fight with him, and just accepted it.

But when he's subpoenaed, again, by the DOJ, in a new trial against Trump, he won't be able to plead the 5th because he's been pardoned, given that nothing can be used against him.

 

ex-NYPD official, intelligence expert John Miller puts it in context

 

Lol…So why doesn’t he do it? It’s because trump is guilty as hell and he knows it. So do you.

 

And because Trump knows he can delay and distract courts singly forever.
He had had years of practice.
As long as his donors keep paying into his piggyback he will carry on.

 

I didn't say they had been TRIED.
I said they had been cross examined.
They have been questioned by those who want different outcomes with lawyers alongside.

 

August 5, 2021
The GOP pushed Benghazi probes for years. It’s already done with Jan. 6.

Republicans spent years pushing for investigation after investigation of the tragedy in Benghazi, Libya. But when it comes to the Jan. 6 insurrection, they’re already very much over it.


...But a full year later — in June 2017 — Fox News asked a similar question again. And lo and behold: 65 percent of Republicans still said it was either “extremely” or “very” important that the investigations into Benghazi continue.


This was just shy of five years after the attack, after six congressional investigations, including a select committee run by Republicans that had concluded its work. And nearly two-thirds of Republicans wanted to keep probing. That’s similar to the number of Republicans who basically said it was time to move on from investigating Jan. 6 even before the first big report landed.

It’s worth emphasizing that situations like these aren’t, of course, totally analogous. One was a terrorist attack overseas on a U.S. mission, while another was a riot at the Capitol perpetrated by Americans. But both involved a similar number of deaths. Both involved intelligence failures in the lead-up. And both are seemingly the kind of thing people would want to avoid a repeat of.

...That experience clearly colors GOP resistance to really any kind of probing of Jan. 6. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who has led that resistance, in the past, held up the Benghazi select committee as essentially a political success because it damaged Clinton ahead of her 2016 presidential campaign.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...azi-probes-years-its-already-done-with-jan-6/

NO PAYWALL LINK
https://archive.ph/XA06n

Ten investigations were conducted into the 2012 Benghazi attack, six of these by Republican-controlled House committees

"Despite numerous allegations against Obama administration officials of scandal, cover-up and lying regarding the Benghazi attack and its aftermath, none of the ten investigations found any evidence to support those allegations. The last of the investigation committees issued its final report and shut down in December 2016, one month after the 2016 presidential election."

Republicans Are Tough on Terrorism Until the Terrorists Are Republicans

 

Ten investigations were conducted into the 2012 Benghazi attack, six of these by Republican-controlled House committees


Despite numerous allegations against Obama administration officials of scandal, cover-up and lying regarding the Benghazi attack and its aftermath, none of the ten investigations found any evidence to support those allegations. The last of the investigation committees issued its final report and shut down in December 2016, one month after the 2016 presidential election.

"Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she's untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened, had we not fought."
Kevin McCarthy

On October 22, 2015, Clinton testified before the Committee and answered members' questions for more than eight hours before the Committee in a public hearing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inves...nvestigative_reporting_and_opinion_commentary

 

The party of “lock her up” is now the party of “leave him alone”.
What a bunch of hypocrites.

 

The riot in January will never be more than a fraction of all the politically charged violence that we saw in 2020, and Congress can't handle that fact.

 

2020? They attack the seat of Democracy with the intent to stop the peaceful tramsfer of power then?

...Over the course of its nine hearings, the panel established that Mr. Trump had been told repeatedly by his own advisers that he had lost the election to Joseph R. Biden Jr. but lied to the public anyway, advancing conspiracy theories and fantasies that had been debunked by his own team. The committee presented evidence on Thursday that Mr. Trump had planned months before the election to claim fraud if he lost, regardless of the facts.

To that end, the panel showed how he had used the power of his office to pressure governors, state officials and legislators, congressional allies, Justice Department leaders and his own vice president, Mike Pence, to put aside the judgment of the voters and keep him in office anyway. He encouraged the mob when he knew some of them were armed and did little to stop the attack once it was underway; he is even said to have reacted approvingly to some rioters’ call to hang Mr. Pence.

Since Mr. Trump pressed House Republican leaders not to participate in the committee, he had no defenders to offer any mitigating evidence or challenge witnesses over the last four months.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/13/us/politics/jan-6-panel-accountability.html

NO PAYWALL LINK
https://archive.ph/WcfWN

 

I suppose the Spanish inquisitors thought they were on a "fact finding mission" also. The problem with it, as well as the 1/6 Committee, is the conclusions were/are made before the facts were actually found. Trump was pronounced guilty of inciting an insurrection and all the kangaroo court wants (like the Spanish inquisitors) is a confession.

Being pardon of previous crimes won't help Stone. He can still be prosecuted for any new crimes as a result of his testimony (like perjury). The only thing that might help him is immunity. Has that been offered to anyone, including Trump?

 

Wasn't Trump's get out of jail early free card enough?

 

Whataboutism

 

I'm saying this isn't a trial, therefore they haven't been cross examined.

 

Guilty of what?

 

Semantics. The point is, invoking the 5th amendment is neither am admission, nor a denial. Putting it on record doesn't mean anything.

 

It's being treated like a trial. It targets one single United States citizen. That's unconstitutional.

 

They emphatically could care less if it was a just outcome as they have lied, embellished and frankly, broken the law to try and persecute Trump. Their hate for Orange man has truly broken the left mentally.

And BTW, the subpoena is merely a ploy to bury the lead regarding Hunter criminal activities and Brandon's recent QPQ.

 

Nope there is wayyyy more against crime boss Diaper Donnie

 

Have you watched the proceedings?
The 9 committee interviews and questioning?

 

Diaper Donnie disagreed over and over, until he used it more than 400 times in his cicil case