No more israel.

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  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    If you actually see the world history as it is you see Russian hate each other so much that they divided their country piece by piece. Do you know why?

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    Sharon pulled out of Gaza--a mistake, I thought at the time--and Hamas predictably filled the vacuum.

    The recent Hamas attack was also predictable because a wall by itself will only stop individuals and small groups. Jewish residents near Gaza were sitting ducks. Israel has to have a presence inside Gaza or alternatively have defense-in-depth behind the wall. This is a failure of Netanyahu's government.

    Hamas can be defeated. Why isn't Israel taking them out? Good question and I think the answer may be more about Israeli politics than anything else.
    Europeans are divided about Israel vs. Palestinians. I think Russia is trying to divide Europe which is increasingly resolved to deal with Russian expansion.

    Europeans are less happy with radical Muslims these days.
     
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    It would be so nice and peaceful if there wasn't a single religion on the planet. How many people have been killed because of religions? Woe is me, it will never end.
     
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    More dependent states that the USA has to protect using their coin without any compensation. Just money for weapons contractors and poverty for American citizens funding an Empire that doesn't serve their interest(s).
     
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    I am fine with my tax $$$ goes to protect European and defense of NATO. The majority of Dems thinks that way. Majority republican used to think same way but then came Trump and republican lost their common sense. Oh well.. Trump and his supporter will not come to Power again to weaken NATO.
     
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    That's great that you're fine with it. Though when it comes to escalation of arms you'll probably sit on the sidelines waiting for other men to die for your beliefs or do you intend volunteer for Israel? Also are you going to be part of the "fortifying" team to prevent Trump from regaining power?
     
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    You are right, if America has to put on the ground , I am not going.

    But that doesn’t matter. Does it.

    You bring majority America who would vote to weaken NATO or not support Israel, US will change her policy. Right now, Majority Americans for past 80 Years support Israel unconditionally and support stronger NATO.

    You are in minority and don’t have enough vote in congress to stop supporting Israel or NATO. All you can do is debate in online forum. It would not change anything.
     
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    LMAO
     
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    It does. It just goes to show that the population so eager to defend their "Ally" is no shape to even go fight themselves.

    Engaging in a war in the Middle East will be the end of American hegemony and NATO. I welcome that actually. Maybe you're right about getting involved afterall. Just escalation until it collapses.

    Who are you going to draft? My generation and the younger ones are the only fit people to go into a war. Even worse that this current stock of Americans is pathetically weak. I'm not going to fight even though I am physically fit and there are numerous people in my generation that won't lift a finger. You're going to fight a war with no patriotic Americans willing to go die in some foreign hell hole this time. Just a bunch of mercs who will bug out the moment it turns into a slogfest like it is in Ukraine currently.
     
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    As I said this kind of meaningless discussion is the only thing anti-Israel , anti-NATO supporter can do. majority Americans support Israel and NATO , that is why every administration ( except twice impeached Trump) in last 80 years supported Israel and NATO unconditionally.
     
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    That's definitely not the reason. As you know, military power is directly related to finance. And it was the Jews who financed Hitler.
    Think of the Jewish Warburg family or the Jewish sponsor of Hitler, Fritz Thyssen, a major German industrialist.
    Jewish financial magnate Gustav Grupp, met with Hitler in February 1933 and began to assist in the rearmament of Germany, his enterprises produced military equipment on a huge scale.
    Banking businessmen Oskar Wasserman and Hans Privin, industrialists Fritz Mandel and Reynold Gesner - all of them Jewish sponsors of Hitler.
     
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    We'll see how things develop.
    For example, we can already say that the IDF has lost up to 10% of its tanks.
    In 12 days, Hezbollah destroyed approximately 12 Merkava-4 tanks with Kornet-E ATGMs.
    Hamas also did their best: at least 20 Merkava-4 tanks were hit.
    That is, in less than two weeks, the IDF has lost 10% of its fleet of battle-ready tanks.
    There's a video https://rutube.ru/video/96067b5a93dad844683e9926d027c601/
     
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    The Jews financed Hitler???? And Lincoln financed John Wilkes Booth I suppose?
     
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    That's because the same states are setting the middle east on fire. And I think it will have the same result as in Ukraine.
    American special forces went to Israel. However, the White House made sure that their faces (members of the secret special forces) became known by posting their photo with Biden on the website. It was only after Hamas liked it that the post was erased.
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    That's the kind of idiot at the helm of the US today. Who did you vote for?
     
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    Do you realize you're writing nonsense?
     
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    I think Israel was doomed a long time ago. And the reason is the global economic crisis.
    You can laugh at conspiracy theories, but let's look at the facts.
    1. Kissinger said back in 2012 that in 10 years there will be no Israel. Kissinger is very smart and therefore this statement can be heeded.
    2. Hamas has been preparing its operation against Israel for about two years, many thousands of people are involved - do you believe that Mossad did not know about this?
    3. I watched a video of a girl who served in the IDF talking about how she was awakened many times at night by a pigeon, a stork, a lizard.... flying and crawling near the security wall..... but this time no one noticed how a horde of people on mopeds and tractors crept up to the security wall - how they did it unnoticed?. Besides, there are minefields all around.
    In general, there are a lot of questions - no answers.

    Putin doesn't need to destroy europe, they are doing a good job of it themselves.
    My opinion - Europe will see increased terrorism many times over, riots and increased ethnic and racial crime. This will cause discontent of the people - this will cause ultra right wing sentiment of the indigenous peoples of europe - this could lead to a European war. A very good excuse for the US to solve its economic problems by supplying Europe with everything.
     
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    Totally agree. I think all religions are frauds using superstition and illiteracy of people. They are also preachers of the interests of the ruling class.
     
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    Do you use a crystal ball? Tarot Cards? or Tea leaves?
     
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    1. I gave my opinion. Or is it illegal to have your own opinion in the US today?
    2. I have shown facts that raise certain questions. If you know the answers to these questions, please write. For example, show the reason why Mossad supposedly did not know that Hamas was preparing an attack on Israel for two years. At the same time, Hamas has been building replicas of Israeli fortifications and training thousands of fighters. How can Mossad, with informants everywhere, not know this?

    In terms of "crystal ball? Tarot Cards? or Tea leaves?" those are questions you'd have to ask Kissinger. Ask him how he knew in 2012 that Israel was in trouble.
     
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    you don't like HISTORY of USSR ?

    again i will post USSR don't exist., USA f$$$ USSR up in the A$$$



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    Europe doing Great but USSR .. here are some history


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    “First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century,” Putin said. “As for the Russian people, it became a genuine tragedy. Tens of millions of our fellow citizens and countrymen found themselves beyond the fringes of Russian territory.
     
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    How many do you think killed in the name of Religion?

    Do you know over 100 million people killed in USSR, China , South America, Vietnam and other communist country in the name of “secularism”?

    I am not denying, in the name of God, many people have been killed, but “atheism/ secularism” is not as peaceful as some might claim?
     
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    That's great. I hope you enjoy mooching off future generations for a foreign nation and to place the lives of those future generations in the hands of a foreign power unconditionally. Sounds like slavery. You must like being a slave to the state of Israel. Are you part of the 2800 slaves for every Jew the Zionist speak of?
     
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    Does it matter ? as I keep saying majority American Unconditionally support Israel and NATO. There is nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about that.
     
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    You say there is nothing I can do. But I'm already making progress against it. Am I going to discuss my in real life political activities? No. You boomers are TV boobs who believe anything they're told. My generation is shattering that support and it's already enough that there isn't a continual barrage of American fighter Jets over Gaza bombing it. I'm already winning. The information war is on my side now and not yours. The USA is economically ****ed currently and you're concerned for the safety of a foreign state. That alone goes to show the levels of idiocy on display for anyone to see why Pro-Israel movements are Anti-American.
     

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