Joe Biden is the Real Threat to Democracy

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone brought up Covid and I responded. As for what Fauci said, he could have said driving a car is risky and you should try to mitigate the risk.

    Here's more of what he said and it sure sounds totally different than lockdowns, arrests on public beaches and vaccine passports.

     
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    Driving is risky and we take a ton of precautions to mitigate it from passive safety and active systems to electronic driving aids.

    And all were about mitigation of risk. All countries did something similar and many far worse, those nations typically had a far lower death rate as well.

    So back to the president, do you think it was good for him to politicize it in the way that he did? Lie about just how contagious it was?
     
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    Sometimes when I see how people write long articles praising Trump I think more efficient will be just to write:

    Surrender Your Life To Trump!

    Be aware of Antichrist Biden!
     
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  5. Arkanis

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    Where to begin?

    Pretending from the outset that it wasn't dangerous.

    That the virus would miraculously disappear with the warm weather.

    And above all, his inability to convince his own MAGA to be vaccinated.

    Go back into the history of this forum and read the comments of the MAGAs - including yourself - when the scientists were predicting 250,000 deaths from the virus.

    That was in March 2019.

    The MAGAs said the scientists were all crazy, they only wanted to deprive Americans of their freedom and undermine Trump's presidency.

    As a result, the US had one of the worst mortality records in the G20.

    COVID killed 1.2 million Americans.

    Trump has blood on his hands.... up to his elbows.
     
  6. Steve N

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    WHO and China said the virus was not transmittable human to human, so stop being xenophobic and allow people from china to enter America. And as I've said many, many times, Pelosi and de Blasio told people to go out and enjoy their cities. And what happened to two weeks to flatten the curve?

    I got the first two shots, and after reading about the problems worldwide about people who also got the shots, I regret getting them, and I really regretted getting them when I had chest pains after the second shot. My cardiologist said people shouldn't be mandated to get the shots and he also said many of his patients had their heart problems intensify after they were jabbed.

    In post 27 the accusation was made that Trump politicized the virus. What do you guys think you've been doing since the virus first got here and are continuing to do today?
     
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  7. Arkanis

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    Don't try to make Trump look like a victim of the Chinese and Pelosi again.

    Trump has taken credit for every success during his presidency and has always blamed his failures on others.

    During the pandemic, he was the POTUS.

    His performance was catastrophic and voters got rid of him mainly because of that.
     
  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    This is not accurate. 53% due to corporate greed
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...flation-due-to-high-corporate-profits.616109/

    47% due to pandemic related causes. Both presidents did a total of $2 trillion each stimulus packages, which contributed.

    So, it's pandemic caused, for the most part.
    No president controls interests rates, they are controlled by the independent federal reserve.
    The chairman is Jerome Powell, a conservative libertarian appointed by Donald Trump.
    He is employing the same inflation taming methods implemented by Paul Volcker (appointed by Carter) in the late 70s and early 80s, which involved raising interest rate to shrink the money supply. This is the historically successful method of doing it. Biden should be lauded, not criticized, for not firing Powell, who has the right instincts to control in flation, and inflation has come down, considerably.
    There was a humanitarian crisis, two fold, under Trump. 1. He pushed the problem to the Mexican side, and no matter which side it is on, it is still a humanitarian crisis. 2. Trump's 'zero tolerance' policy resulted in 2200 children permanently separated from their parents, who were deported, but the children are in America somewhere, and no one knows where, or vice versa, the Trump administration's bookkeeping was so sloppy that it resulted on what is effectively child abuse.
    BLM occurred during Trump. 1/6 attack occurred during Trump and he was the cause for which he has been indicted. hate crimes spiked under Trump. There are more murders in red states than blue states.
    Trump paid lip service to ending the war in Afghanistan but kicked the can to Biden, who was the one who ended the war.
    Trump is the one with no major legislative achievements (other than CARES, which Biden did ARP, so both presidents did stimulus, but that was because of the pandemic). Biden got the Infrastructure Bill passed, which currently has some 44,000 projects in motion across the USA Biden is rebuilding America, Trump paid lip service to an infrastructure bill and , with both houses, couldn't get it done. Biden got it done, bipartisan, within the first 300 days of his presidency. And then there is the CHIPS act.
    Prices are coming down and wages are up. Inflation is down to 3.1% (2.5% was average) and wages are up 5.2%. I will say that Republicans have done a good job of lying about Biden and bamboozling the public.
    "I am your retribution" -- DJT. yeah, right.
    There is zero evidence of any wrongdoing by Joe Biden.
    Trump's indictments pertaining to his unlawful conspiracy to overturn and subvert the 2020 election, his having conned 65 million people into believing the election was stolen is incontrovertible proof that he is the threat to democracy, not Joe Biden.

    Trump is a threat to democracy because he is a threat to US national security.

    As president, Trump was a threat to US National Security Because of....

    His debt to foreign banks is a national security threat.

    His incessant undermining public faith in elections is a national security threat.

    His incessant assertion that the press is the enemy of the people undermine public confidence in the very thing that protects them from tyranny, i.e., a vigorous and free press, which is a threat to liberal democracy, and a national security threat.

    His contempt of congress and obstruction of justice is a threat to national security

    His attempt to use the DOJ for political ends is a threat to national security

    His hiring lobbyists to the cabinet posts they fought against is a threat to national security

    His failure to grasp the seriousness of climate change is a threat to national security ( this is the big one)

    His gutting the state department, leaving half of the ambassadorships unfilled is a threat to national security

    His hiring of incompetent persons is a threat national security.

    His incompetence handling Covid is a threat to national security
    the unprecedented turnover in the white house is a threat to national security

    His tendency to hire sycophants/yes men, and fire those who speak truth to power is a threat to national security.

    His lack of knowledge of US history, lack of knowledge of civics, and many things along these lines, is a threat to national security

    His arrogance and total lack of empathy, and total lack of humility, plus the above, means he is unfit for the job and his unfitness is a threat to national security.

    His nepotism is a threat to national security.

    His spending too much time watching TV and tweeting and playing golf is a threat to national security ( well, it's not good, let's just say that much )

    His imposing tariffs which caused farmers to permanently lose markets is a threat to national security

    His corruption, bilking of the US Taxpayer to the tune of $16 million from entourage stays in his hotels and resorts, all of which his family has profited and his nepotism, allowing his daughter in law to win millions of dollars worth of China trademarks while he was negotiating with China, his allowing Jared to garner a $25 million blood money from murderous Mohammed Bin Salman, all of which is a threat to national security

    His nauseating fawning over Putin whose objective is to destroy and/or greatly diminish America's standing in the world, is a threat to national security

    His incessant egregious lying, i.,e., "Truth Decay" is a threat to national security

    His usurping the Senate by appointing 'acting' heads of departments of whom the president is
    supposed to appoint and be confirmed by the Senate, the acting heads cause more instability and decrease of moral in the rank and file in those departments,
    is a threat to national security

    His firing of Comey, which was detrimental to the morale of the rank and file of the FBI, and

    Trump's scapegoating the FBI, and undermining a once trusted American institution (post Hoover, of course). is a threat to national security

    His acquiescing to Erdogan by allowing DOJ to interfere in US Attorney's office investigation of a Turkish bank because it will adversely affect members of Erdogan's family, noting that Erdogan tried to do it with Obama, and his DOJ refused, but Erdogan is finding Trump a pliant president, noting that Trump abandoning the kurds, who were instrumental in helping us in the Iraq war, whose members died for America, Trump did this to appease Erdogan, whereupon the vacuum that that pull out created forced the Kurds to turn to Russia, thus increasing Russia's influence in the region, noting that Trump has property in Turkey, is a threat to national security

    His decision to begin the process of withdrawing the United States from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty will end an arms control agreement with Russia that has been a centerpiece of European security since the Cold War. The move, meant to penalize Russia for noncompliance, is likely to alarm the international community, particularly Europe, and cause fears that the US and Russia could enter a new nuclear arms race is a threat to national security

    His pulling out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, A massive trade deal meant to counteract China's economic power. Trump ran on a promise to spike the plan, saying it was unfair to American workers. The pact was never officially adopted by Congress. The other 11 nations have carried on without the US, the void this pullout caused allowed China to gain considerable influence over international Trade in the affected regions. The partnership was an agreement that was the result of many years of negotiation is a threat to national security

    His pullout of the Iran nuclear deal. Despite criticism, the deal bought America about 15 years of time to work on ways to thwart their development of nukes, and without the deal, they are restored to their pre-agreement abilities, with one difference, their money in banks, which was frozen, is now in their hands, so we don't have the benefit of the agreement nor the benefit of the freeze on their funds is a threat to national security

    His receiving a $500 million dollar loan from Deutsche Bank while simultaneously a deposit that amount was made to that bank, the money coming from a Russian state bank ( which means Putin controlled ) which makes Trump beholden to Putin, which explains his refusal to criticize Putin, or do much about Russian election interference is a threat to national security
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    His appointing a Secretary of Commerce who was the VP of the real estate loan department at Deustche Bank when Trump was getting many loans from Deutsche Bank is a threat to national security

    His failure to grasp certain fundamental economic concepts, his contentions which are essentially false, such as 'Tariffs are paid by China" ( no, they are paid by Americans ) is a threat to national security

    His appointing of a Postmaster General whose apparent mission was to slow down mail in ballots from arriving on time, noting that this postmaster general (Dejoy) has failed to comply with a court order to expedite the mail in ballots is a threat to national security

    His 'tax cut' which was nothing more than largesse for the superrich, and crumbs for everyone else thus causing deficits to careen to levels history has never seen is a threat to national security

    His repeal of many important environmental regulations is a threat to national security.

    I could go on, but why bother?
     
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    1. the President does not have the power to control the economy. Inflation was the result of near zero interest rates, qualative easing, both by the FED, independent of the Executive Branch, an increase in demand of products while our global supply chains were still dealing with Covid, and petroleum producers unable or unwilling to increase supply of gas as we, the consumers, began to travel more, beginning in 2021.

    2. Biden is not the person calling for the dismantling of the US Constititon, becoming dictator for life, trying to punish any and all enemies from networks to groups, to individual persons, calling to have complete immunity, including but not limited to, ordering SEAL Team Six to assassinate his political rivals, telling his supporters that you can violate any law you deem fit as long as it is to "benefit the country, aka me politically, and I will pardon you, and so forth. That is all on Trump, not Joe Biden.

    the rest of this thread is pure political garbage.
     
  10. LowKey

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    Joe Biden did not trigger inflation. The real reason Joe Biden is a threat is because he'll perpetuate a system designed to exploit the American public for the benefit of soon to be trillionaires, and of course himself by extention.

    This results in Donald Trumps. Who may wind up being left or right wing but will inevitably continue to arise as this abuse of the public continues. They will be autocratic, and there will be no check on their authority thanks to decades of short sighted policy ensuring winner take all governance over consensus governance.
     
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