The right's disingenuous treatment of Joe Biden

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't have guessed.
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Because the right didn't think he was unfit. He had early Alzheimer's but actually did his job. Not true of Biden. He doesn't appear to have Alzheimers and hasn't done his job since day one on it. The country's government is managed by the white house staff, not Biden.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Joe's performance last night at the WH Correspondence dinner was flawless. He was charming, jovial, self-deprecating, self-assured. He was everything Trump is not, a man of class and gravitas.

    I'm not buying the right's and your bullshit narrative, which has only one objective, to reelect a conman, hypster, fraudster, criminal, pervert.

    Joe has it all over Trump, and last night, it was glaringly clear.

    Trump is a moron walking.

    There is no comparison, none.
     
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    President Trump took a cognitive test while in office and passed. Briben refused. You're not informed.
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your 'suspicion' can be resolved if you remove your partisan lens, which is obscuring your view.

    The right is disingenuous, and playing hard ball politics. They will take scant evidence and blow it so far out of proportion, and do it often enough, that it sticks. The right is very clever, and has done a marvelous job of controlling the narrative about Joe Biden. But, truth has a way of emerging from the right wing fog machine, which YOU are contribution to because or YOUR disingenuousness (meaning you are NOT being fair, you are being partisan).

    Joe's performance last night at the WH Correspondence dinner was flawless. He was charming, jovial, self-deprecating, self-assured. He was everything Trump is not, a man of class and gravitas, clearly showing that the right's narrative of Joe is just bullshit, and has been bullshit from the getgo.

    I'm not buying the right's and your bullshit narrative, which has only one objective, to reelect a conman, hypster, fraudster, criminal, pervert and the evidence on these characterizations are in spades, which makes me wonder how you can not see it.

    Joe has it all over Trump, and last night, it was glaringly clear. Watch his segment at the WHCD. Watch him yourself, his segment begins at @1:18:09 into the video:

    https://www.youtube.com/live/rx8HDbBrErE
     
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    Your failure to follow what Biden has done and remember it is not evidence of him not doing his job. However your failure as mentioned may be evidence of a serious problem.
     
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    Yup. Trump's personal, captive, compliant "doctor" said Trump passed his test. Yup.
     
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    Trump has demonstrated far more serious lapses and mumbling than the type we see in Joe. But both are unfit. Trump's just clearly worse.
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You bring up a valid point, some of those on my end of the spectrum do it, too.

    I don't, or, rather, I strive not to (I might have, in the past, but I don't like it) and that's all you have to know. I'm not going to nitpick on my side, why should I? They are on the right side of history. If any get a fact wrong, I do try and correct it, where I can. You wouldn't, either, so not accepting your premise, though it was fair of you to bring it to my attention, and don't think it hasn't occurred to me. What you should do, for them, is to do, what I do, for the right, bring this kind of rhetoric to people's attention, and in that effort., maybe we can raise the overall tone and caliber of the forum. Wouldn't that be nice?

    But first, you need to clean up your posts as I try and do mine.

    I have posted my feelings on this kind of rhetoric in my sig, in the hopes that
    those on BOTH sides might follow suit, get the message. I do call Trump some names, like fraudster, criminal, pervert, but I think I can post enough evidence that these characterizations are accurate. But doing things like 'Rethuglicans' or 'DemocRATs', that kind of thing is gratuitous and unnecessary. the operative word is, 'gratuitous'. It's one thing to criticize, and it's sincere and one can post evidence to support, but gratuitous smears are unnecessary.

    Thing is, in the face of obnoxiousness and ignorance, it is difficult to be friendly to such people. That's a tall ask, and the mods chide me often.
     
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    After last night's WHCD performance, I'm not buying your argument.
     
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    Yes, and Briben refuses to take the test with his "personal, captive, compliant doctor".
     
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    Yawn. You never do.
     
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    Serious problem? You are being cryptic.
     
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    I have more than adequately made my point and nothing in this latest response is new to this conversation

    I refuse to get on the merry go round where we just keep repeating ourselves over and over with slightly different wording. This is supposed to be an exchange of ideas, not a battle of attrition to see who can hang in there the longest.
     
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    Bidet’s address at the Corresponent’s dinner was remarkable, and clearly shows that he is up to the task!
     
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    We see the problem.
    On one hand the world sees brandon almost daily tripping over himself, fumbling words, forgetting where he is, where he's supposed to go, what he's doing.
    According to liberals, he's just fine and dandy.

    On the other hand we see trump, slurring words, walking slow.
    According to liberals the man is nearly on his death bed.

    The denial of reality is clear.

    So lets jump to the bottom line;
    If Trump falls away, we have several options, least of which is Haley.
    If brandon falls away, what are the liberals gonna do?
    Harris?
    God help us!
     
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    Well, I don't know about "charming, jovial, self-deprecating, self-assured,", but he sure was fumbling his words and thoughts, wasn't he?
    Biden says he's not asking press to take sides, but calls on reporters to 'rise up to the seriousness of the moments' | Watch (msn.com)
     
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    Glad to here he had a good evening. We'll keep crossed fingers that he can keep it up.
     
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    Yep, the best performance medical science could provide.
     
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    Because you never offer a compelling argument. That's a good reason your partisan lens obscures.

    As for 'yawn', cheap pseudo debate tricks, which, essentially, fall under the umbrella of posturing, might work on others, but not me.

    Find a real argument, without posturing, puffery, (and all the other items listed in my sig) etc.
     
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    I find it a waste of time to have an adult conversation with people the bulk of whose comment resorts to and traffics in cheap shots, failure to substantiate claims, rant words, grandiose assumptions, weasel words, cavalier broad swipes, hyperbolic characterizations, snarky one liners, useless hypotheticals, sarcastic retorts, loaded terms, thought-terminating cliches, tired tropes, questions with assumed premises, etc., etc.
     
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    You'd made an honest attempt, true. But, I'm not convinced, we'll just have to disagree.
     
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    For an 83 year old guy, he's doing just fine.
    I don't care. I think the more important issue is to defeat Trump by any and all justifiable means. More importantly, prosecute him for his crimes.
     
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    . In other words those that question your pompous self-righteousness, Uber-partisanship, and Trumpsychosis.

    You never try to HAVE a conversation, you pontificate. You get what you earn.
     

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