Conservatives condemn Kristi Noem for ‘twisted’ admission of killing dog

I've killed a couple of rabbits and a feral hog and my share of squirrel and birds in my day...... I guess that makes me a monster on par with Hannibal lecter.

I even picked through their tiny bones as I consumed their flesh. I like a nice chiante and flava beans with my liver. Lol

 

You need to check out your local dog ordinances .
Are they breeding them for sale?
I don't see your dangerous situation as a "dog control " issue but a police issue.
Be careful this is an ugly situation that could become deadly..for not only your dog.

This sucks, there's quite a few online articles about the new dog laws.

"Florida's "Dangerous Dogs" law, which went into effect on October 1, 2023, prohibits local governments and public housing authorities from banning pit bulls based on breed, weight, or size. The law also overturned any remaining breed bans by local governments. However, some cities and counties may still have breed-specific regulations in place, such as requiring owners to register their dogs or follow specific rules regarding leash and muzzle requirements. "

 

I'm inclined to say that I would agree with an outright ban but that ruffles my feathers.... Especially with some government lackey trying to determine what sort of mixed breed would qualify.

But I do agree with conditions on owning dangerous breeds, such as a muzzle required in public places regardless of if the dog has displayed aggression yet or not..... And in a situation like this where you live around other people closely..... You should no longer be able to have that dog after It has just gotten loose twice within a short period of time.

There should be a little bit of leeway but your dog should not be getting out two or three times a month. Maybe once or twice a year at best.... Anything else displays outright negligence and lack of concern for anyone around you

 

Chickens don’t fall under current US law as livestock. But yes, I agree they are livestock regardless of how the USDA designates them at this time.

 

In Trump's defense, the guy doesn't read books.


"Trump Endorses Kristi Noem's Puppy Killing Book"

"After murdering her puppy, Noem describes how she then immediately proceeded to also kill her family's goat, because she had "another unpleasant job that needed to be done." Noem said the goat smelled "disgusting, musky, rancid," and would chase her children around all day because it hadn't been castrated. Rather than just washing the animal and getting it fixed, Noem literally dragged the goat to the same pit wherein she had just ended Cricket, and proceeded to shoot the goat as well.'


https://www.meidastouch.com/news/trump-endorses-kristi-noems-puppy-killing-book

 

Shelters euthanize dogs too. Firearms can be very humane tools for euthanasia. All forms can be botched accidentally or by incompetence.

 

Killing out of pure self interest! Monster indeed!

 

I'm curious about your local ordinances, if you check them out online please give an update.
Any complaints from neighbors about the dogs getting lose?
I'd also start documenting every time they get loose.
It's all an accident waiting to happen.
Be careful!

 

At such a young age it is still possible. It also depends on the breed of the dog as some are more naturally aggressive than others. One technique is to teach the dog the difference between hunt and play. Another is to acclimate the dog to the animals that you don't want it to kill. You'll want to do it on a rewards based system and sharp commands and a strong leash with sharp tugs when necessary. No one process is easy and they all can take a long time. But it IS doable.

 

GPK could have given the goat away.

 

She quotes the other excuse as being used to chase her children (?? They are adults now so she executed it for long past behaviour). Neither is a justifiable excuse to shoot a goat. Goats are herd animals and would naturally follow people who are in their company - this goat was clearly a pet so would consider children as part of the herd

 

I’ve seen goats that I would feel were unethical to give to a worst enemy.

 

You should probably check out the story a bit. This all happened decades ago.

We can’t just make stuff up.

 

To me it is. :shrug: At 14 months they're still easily taught things, have just as much energy as they do at 6 months, if not more, and still act just as foolish at times.

If you wish to calculate it then at 14th months they're approximately 15-16 years old in human years so still considered a "child/teenager" going by human standards, and that is what "puppy" essentially is about. Of course if you want to really get scientific then it depends on the dog breed as smaller dogs mature faster than larger dogs. Generally humans are considered adults at a standard age but its generally centered at an age when everyone is for sure stopped growing (at least when the adult age was established, though more and more that age is being pushed out to age 21-25 depending on who you listen to). The same applies to dogs v puppies. For dogs that can be anywhere from 12-18 months depending on the breed of the dog with larger dog breeds being more towards the 18 month age and smaller dogs towards the 12 month age.

 

What happened decades ago?

 

Shooting the goat. Read up. Then come back and comment. Stop making things up.

 

Yes ok, but how does that justify shooting the goat for not liking its smell or chasing the children which, children being children, probably encouraged?

 

When I was a child, a very young child, we had this one goat that was completely aggressive with everyone except two people. My dad and my brother. Everyone else she would run at them and butt them as hard as she could. She was NOT a very nice goat. She had kids on the same day St. Helens blew and I was upset that I couldn't see them, I thought it was just snowing (thats how young I was) but because it was actually ash my folks wouldn't let me outside. In other words even though she was aggressive, she was still loved. By the time we got rid of her (due to having to move literally across the entire country) she was almost to the point where she wouldn't butt me or my youngest sister.

 

I wouldn't believe Noem's description of the goat and would leave that to the person who came to see it.
You're talking about a woman who recently was opposed to a pregnant 10 yr old rape victim getting an abortion.
Nuff said.

 

Thanks for a story with a great ending.
Like a phoenix they rose from the ashes..(chuckle)

It mirrors children who were given up as doomed until they found someone who turned their life around.

 

As I said earlier. I’d be very careful about believing journalists who hate this woman.

I’m guessing you were never knocked down by a buck as a child? It can be a serious safety issue. A buck in rut can kill a child.

A buck that knocked me down a few times broke my mom’s arm once. She was a grown ass adult.

 

"Noem said the goat smelled "disgusting, musky, rancid," and would chase her children around all day because it hadn't been castrated"

Yes, castration is a common practice for goats, and can be beneficial for a number of reasons:

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  • Working goats: Castrated male goats, or wethers, are often used as working goats.
  • Meat production: Castration can improve meat quality.
  • Manageability: Castration can make animals more manageable.
  • Unwanted pregnancies: Castration can prevent unwanted pregnancies.
  • Docility: Castration can make goats less aggressive and more docile, which can be useful for pets, pack animals, or fiber harvesting.
  • Smell: Castration can eliminate the strong odor that comes from intact male goats urinating on themselves.
  • Herd health: Only one buck is needed to breed many does.
  • Breeding season: Bucks can be hard to handle, especially during breeding season, and can become aggressive

 

The line between second chances and strike you’re out isn’t black and white.

My mother in law had a gelding that was too spicy for any of us to train. So a family friend who was more of a horse trainer took him in to work with.

The evidence showed the family friend was bucked off and then kicked in the head. He died in the hospital a day later, not having woken up to tell his two teenage kids and his wife goodbye or that he loved them. I don’t think my mother in law has ever gotten over giving that horse a chance.

Horse ended up slaughtered anyway, but ruined a family on the way. The world that exists to supply ya’ll grub isn’t just warm fuzzies. It’s messy and complicated.

 

What a tragic sad happening.
Not being insensitive but both your MIL and the family friend who were both horse people didn't think the horse should never be ridden again and put out to graze all day.
Horse accidents are not uncommon and as you stated can be deadly.
My sister and SIL had horses and quite a few times a rider would get thrown.

 

Sure. What’s your point? Every male goat (buck) that knocked me down and the one that broke my mom’s arm was intact. It’s hard to get the does bred if you castrate your buck.

Imagine if Cricket the dog’s sire had been castrated? Then Cricket wouldn’t have existed. We can’t just castrate all male animals. If I castrated each bull I bought so they wouldn’t throw me and my four wheeler 6 feet in the air with their fat head what good would they be? If I turned all my bucks into weathers how would I raise more goats?

SMH.