Pro-Putin/Putin Apologist Joe Biden Lifts Sanctions on Russia

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  1. ECA

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    Still no news sites reporting on Biden lifting Russia sanctions. Doesn't anyone else view this as odd? Surely this would be big news, no?
     
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    Anything he can do to increase available supply will predictably decrease price, you know, like lifting sanctions to allow an oil producing state to export excess oil into the market. Business 101, supply and demand.
     
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    Above average intelligence requires looking further into things that don't make sense.
     
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    Biden wants the gasoline prices stabilized or lowered before the election. If he is reelected, the Biden team will put the hammer down and force fossil fuel prices up. Biden has already serviced notice with his draconian fuel efficiency standards for gasoline vehicles starting 2030.

    As usual they have no plan how that can be achieved. They just demand it. The same applies to EVs. They demand that you switch to them, but they have not made plans for more charging stations or beefing up the electric grid. If you can’t charge up your EV, that’s your problem.
     
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    1. “Anything he can do to increase available supply will predictably decrease price”

    FACT; U.S. and EU’s sanctions HAVE NOT decreased Russia’s crude oil production/world supply. Since the sanctions, Russia kept exporting same amount of crude oil, however, mainly to China and India, and at a discounted price.

    2. “Lifting sanctions will allow an oil producing state to export excess oil into the market”

    Reference to lifting Russia’s sanctions, what excess oil?

    FACT; Last year, Russia JOINED OPEC’s production cuts, and has voluntarily cut its production by approx. 500,000 barrels per day, and has recently extended its production cut until the end of June 2024.

    3. Like ECA said, Biden’s decision to lift Russia’s crude oil sanction, and unitarily, would be national news, TV, newspapers, and certainly right-wing social media.
     
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    Well, based on logical reasoning, I did not.

    And on this site, the absolute truth has often flew over the cuckoo’s nest, thus, in one ear and out the other.
     
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    Has ANYONE found any news sites covering Russia sanctions being lifted? Surely someone has something. Please share so we can get to the bottom of this.
     
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    I haven’t found one article about Biden and Putin’s covert deal.
     
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    You won't. Notice that Bill has slinked away. No response when he is found to have made a blatantly false claim.

    The really funny thing is that there are still a few fanatics plouging on with 'Biden baaaaad' posts even after this has been debunked. Well, pathetic AND funny.

    The next step is to claim 'well this is the kind of thing he would do', or something sad like that. Can't actually admit they got it wrong.
     
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    why is it that extremists on the right are always talking about civil war out of one side of their mouths, while accusing the left of wanting one?

    Jan 6th was a right wing thing, and your beloved fuhrer has just announced his support for violence.
     
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    Because the Leftists will resort to a lot of violence, if Trump is elected.

    We're already seeing it start. Riot season is upon us.
     
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    Nothing is wrong and I damn sure ain't slinking from the likes of YOU :laughing:

    Everything Biden does is political......like that clown in your country bitching about memes on X and Musk. :)

     
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    I did that. And this document never showed up.

    So, where didyou really get it from? Don’t insult anyone’s intelligence by trying to pretend that you found it all by yourself on the Treasury Department’s site. Because nobody will buy that.
     
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    And your evidence is???????? Oh, that’s right, you made it up (again).
     
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    1: Anything he can do to increase available supply will predictably decrease price. <-- this statement stands, and is irrefutable.
    2: You misquoted me. Please try again.
    3: The OP includes a link to a government source. If the OP claims are true, propaganda outlets you mentioned need time to work on their respective spin.
    4: I made no representation about the veracity of the OP, and I am not defending it. I merely answered your question about a way the POTUS can effect gasoline prices... one in keeping with OPs topic.

    If you do not believe that a hypothetical lifting of sanctions on an oil producing state that results in them being allowed to sell more product onto the market would increase supply and necessarily cause prices to fall, then we can discuss that. If you think I represented or defended the OPs claim, then you are mistaken.
     
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    Regardless, people of above average intelligence tend to get that way by investigating things that don't make sense to them. The mantra: "Don't believe everything you think." describes this mindset. I am frankly surprised that anyone here would proudly declare that they don't investigate things that make no sense to them, as you did.
     
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    The OP received FIVE likes, thus, it made sense to him, and it made sense to 5 other posters.

    However, to the above average intelligent people, it didn’t make any sense.
     
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    When Trump tweeted about our Navy SEALs killing a Bin Laden double, that didn’t make any sense to me, because if I were the President, I would just ask my Secretary of Defense for a confirmation.
     
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    It certainly makes no sense to me that a president would relax sanctions on our adversaries for his own political gain.

    This is a catalyst, for me at least, to research it further. That's how people of above average intelligence expand their horizons.

    In the OPs defense, if his claim is true, this would not be the first time this administration has handed aid and comfort to our enemies. So it's certainly plausible they would do it again.
     
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    Quote; Biden wants the gasoline prices stabilized or lowered before the election.

    Best of luck…..

    Headline, Mar 2024; OPEC +/RUSSIA extends production cuts til end of June 2024

    Note; Russia wanted to extend their production til the end of December 2024, thus, til after the election.
     
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    I prefer using logic to debunk a claim. Is there anything wrong with that?
     
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    You said you didn't investigate further because the claim made no sense to you. I merely pointed out that people of above average intelligence typically react in the exact opposite way when they encounter things that make no sense; they are driven to investigate further.
     
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    I'm just going to repost this in such a way that no one can run to mummy and get it removed.

    This doesn't 'lift' anything, it extends existing conditions that were set to expire on May 1.

    From 2023:

    https://www.thompsonhinesmartrade.c...8-regarding-transactions-related-to-energy-2/

    From this week, same source:

    https://www.thompsonhinesmartrade.c...8-regarding-transactions-related-to-energy-3/

    Identical wording to the explanation last year other than the dates. This apparently requires renewal every 6 months, which is precisely what is happening.

    So, far from lifting sanctions, it is extending the current set of conditions that have been in place for over 2 years. No great drama, no great conspiracy. Anyone wondering why Trump supporting media haven't been running with this now knows why - even the admitted liars at Fox know it isn't a story. Still time for a few of the more fanatical fringes to get in on the non-story I guess, but so far even they aren't touching it.

    Imagine falling for something so ridiculous that even media that admits lying for Trump won't run it.
     
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