"If He Wins" -Time, here's a quick list of what Trump's gonna do

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  1. Heartburn

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  2. Lil Mike

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    Heh, so your view he may have to subordinate abortion in order to fulfill his racism agenda? OK I guess that's one view that could get aired on MSNBC.
     
  3. Richard Franks

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    It will be a nightmare if Trump gets in there and whoever votes for him will be sorry they voted for him.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That you like Trump is nice, but that's not forwarding the discussion.

    Feel free to debate any of the points I raised critiquing Trump's points.
     
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    If he keeps putting justices on the court like Kavanaugh and Gorsuch and Barrett why would I be unhappy if the alternative are quota queens who are anti constitution?
     
  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're making an assumption, please substantiate that claim.
    You're making an assumption, please substantiate your claim.
    You're making an assumption, please substantiate your claim.
     
  7. garyd

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    When you produce a point that has something to do with actual reality I might bother to address it. And since I don't know Trump personally I have no idea whether I'll like him or not but then how I feel about some one is utterly immaterial to whether or not he gets my vote. I vote for the person whose policies seem to me to meet the needs of the country not the needs of the DC elites who seem bound and determined to burn it to the ground if they can't have their way. I remain firmly convince that real problem most of the petulant children currently running the country have with Trump is that he didn't think they were nearly as smart as they do. Sadly he was right.
     
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  8. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Talk about departures from reality. You actually believe this is about 'liking' someone? There are a lot of people I like, but I sure as hell don't want them to be president.

    You have no idea about Trump? Have you been paying attention at all?
    Where in god's earth to you get the idea that this is about how one 'feels'?
    $8 trillion debt, soaring deficits, transactional foreign policy that undermines the social cultural historical contexts and confidence in America (will be there for them in their time of need) of our NATO allies and relationships. not to mention he is the guy who lacks any shred of human decency, humility or caring, is morally bankrupt, breathtakingly dishonest, lethally incompetent, and stunningly ignorant of virtually anything related to governing, history, geography, human events or world affairs, when a man like Trump who is a traitor and a malignancy in our nation and who represents a clear and present danger to our democracy and the rule of law, yeah,. let's vote for that guy.

    Jeezus frickin' keerist you guys can't see it. I find that amazing.
    Elites? "I just made you guys richer" ---Trump, to a room full of billionaires.

    Give me a break.

    Burn to the ground? Trump put guys in charge of departments who formerly were lobbyists who sought to undermine the departments they now headed. His 'cabinet' could be likened to termites in a house. Hell, he left half of the ambassadorships vacant, nor did he even care. Have you listened to Bannon, and what the right wants to do, to 'tear it all down'. They literally want to do it.
    That doesn't even make sense.

    My gawd, I don't know what to say. For the right, up is down, black is white, wrong is right. It's hopeless trying to get you guys to see the light on Trump.

    In other words, you only respond to posts that comport to what you think reality is. You know, I could make the same accusation against you. You believe you have a monopoly on what 'reality' is? You sure as hell don't a monopoly on what 'reality' is, this is clear and obvious.

    That means your excuse doesn't even make sense. The whole point is to debate, and that presumes others will have different opinions, or understanding of reality than yourself.

    All you are really doing is offering a cop out, a lame excuse not to engage.
     
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    Trump killed the bipartisan bill to address the border issue, that is all on Trump
     
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    I did not realize Trump was already president.
    Biden has the authority to enforce the border. Biden needs to take responsibility for his own failures.
     
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    LOL... translation... yup you got me, I got nothing.... LMAO....
     
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    He doesn't have to be President to pressure the Republicans into killing the bill.
     
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    Because it wasn't a border control bill that is HR2 It was an attempt to codify the disaster that currently is.
     
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    Doesn't have to be, just has to have his cult members in Congress do what he tells them too
     
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    nope, it gave Republicans what they been asking for, it was written by a Republican
     
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    It gave the cheap labor Republicans and Neocons what they wanted not what all republicans wanted or even close.
     
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    LOL. It would be great if we had a real president like HS Truman. "The buck stops here."
     
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    Oh where To begin with this load of Bilge? I don't Know Trump as a person. I do know his policies when he could get them through the Neocon democrat uniparty in congress made things better not just here but abroad. That is all that matters. I know that most of the The alphabet soup media narrative concerning Trump is being told to me by People who lie for a living and therefore I have no reason to believe anything they say.

    Sorry but The only people looking for top jobs in DC are lobbyists and bureaucrats and the two are very much interchangeable. And blaming Trump for what has been a DC reality for more than 50 years is absurd. With the left everything is gray. There is nothing but what advances the lefts power agenda sorry but that is standard Marxist cant. There is no right or wrong with the left just what ever accrues more power to them. The problem with our administrative state is that during the cold war, it became the very monster it sought to defeat per Nietzsche.
    And No I do not only respond to views with which I agree as you well know by now. What DC needs is people who can think outside the box. It currently has none as we seem hell bent on following the same ideas that have been in play in some cases for nearly a hundred years now in spite of the fact they the results they have produced are often counter productive to their stated intent. The great mistake of the cold war was that it was between murderous sort of right wing thugs and murderous left wing thugs with way to many plain old ordinary people just trying to live their lives getting caught in the middle.
     
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    Because there isn't any.
     
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    not gonna get that from Trump, that is for sure
     
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    We are not getting it from Biden.

    What you are saying is that Trump is more effective as non president than Biden is, as president.
     
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    nope, Trump never took any accountability for his actions, Trump is a loser and a whiner with a fragile ego... Sad!
     
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    What is sad is that you did not respond to what I was saying. I never said a word about whether Trump took any accountability. What I said was that "What you are saying is that Trump is more effective as non president than Biden is, as president."
     
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