Poll: Republican voters are on board with Trump’s ‘dictator’ talk

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, May 2, 2024.

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Are you okay with Trump's 'dictator' rhetoric?

Poll closed May 9, 2024.
  1. Yes, he's kidding

    5 vote(s)
    22.7%
  2. No, he's not kidding

    15 vote(s)
    68.2%
  3. Yes, I would love a dictatorship, democracy sucks

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. I'm indifferent

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  5. Maybe

    1 vote(s)
    4.5%
  1. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. They have lost objectivity and have made it a pattern to project onto the "left" or anyone else except have trump take responsibility for his actions and words.
     
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    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    That's exactly why he has to lose.

    But Trump will never accept defeat or concede.

    Ever.

    He will once again claim that the election was rigged and that victory was stolen from him.

    And because of this, there will be more violence from his supporters.

    He'll find other ways.

    Didn't he say he wanted to get back at the people who sued him?

    Didn't he say he wanted to muzzle the media that didn't support him?

    Didn't he say he wanted to 'eliminate the leftist vermin' in the country?

    The guy's mentally ill.
     
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  3. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    What are those other ways? I want a score card so I can watch it unfold.
     
  4. Arkanis

    Arkanis Well-Known Member

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    Politicizing the DOJ.

    Put family members in key government positions.

    Fire all generals who are not politically aligned with him and replace them with MAGAs.
     
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    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    This is just totally false.
     
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    Yet Biden has governed on fear and hatred for 3 years.
     
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    I'm not sure about that. Trump won the rust belt in 2016 in states that usually go Democrat. I doubt he could have won without Democrats and Independents voting for him, so if he ran as a Democrat he likely would have won those states by a much larger margin.

    The thing keeping him from running as a Democrat (besides his Obama attacks) was his immigration positions. The party might have bended on everything else policy wise, but by 2016 they were too far gone for that.
     
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  8. garyd

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    The DOJ and most of the bureaucracy have been politicized at least since Obama and in some cases probably much longer.
     
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    I do disagree with that. In fact I would say it's pretty much inevitable that the President becomes a de facto dictator. Democracies don't last anyway and Presidential power has grown and grown throughout the last century.
     
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    Disagree all you like. Neither Trump nor Biden will become a true dictator. Won't happen with our system. For that we should all thank our founding fathers. We owe them big time for being so intelligent and forward thinking.
     
  11. Arkanis

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    How do you explain the DOJ's criminal charges against Hunter Biden?
     
  12. ECA

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    And indictment of Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas)
     
  13. HockeyDad

    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dude the Republicans joined with Democrats to ban "anti-semitic" speech in Congress. The greatest single assault on free speech in American history. Neither party is your friend. Remember that. It is amazing given all the problems facing Americans, these people can only think of attacking our constitutional rights. Quit worrying about the little people and start worrying about our so-called elites. Just so you know, criticism of Israel would become prosecutable under this legislation. That will have a big impact on this very forum.

     
  14. garyd

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    One word, camouflage. Get back to me if Hunter ever spends an hour in a jail cell.
     
  15. Arkanis

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    It's a conspiracy.

    As always.
     
  16. LiveUninhibited

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    Frankly if you have the military the rest can be made to follow. He made significant progress on the administrative state hollowing out the state department and generally making appointments by loyalty.

    Does he have the military? Not enough to overturn our system of government. His first step would really be to rig elections in his favor long enough that he can consolidate power enough to overturn our relatively robust system - not as easy as in places where a republic is new and fragile. But his actions to try to overturn the last election were him attempting to do just that.
     
  17. Bullseye

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    Trump gotcha again. And Madcow as well. I hear he's getting carpal tunnel syndrome from jerking your chain so much.

    Extra Credit:
    Why do some many people who embrace a party named for Democracy not hav the first clue what the word means?
     
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  18. Cybred

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    Nope, sorry.
     
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    No. He's following the TRUMP pattern: threatening anybody who opposes him with releasing a mob against them that seeks out to hang them. Like they tried with Mike Pence.
     
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    Are You kidding?
    Why has no one been arrested in connection with the gallows? No finger prints? No interest? Or because they knew it was a fraud the whole time like the pipe bombs?
     
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    Nope.
     
  22. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one tried to hang Pence. The only one who has actually used the US government for political purposes is Biden.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one tried to hang Pence.
     
  24. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm all for banning anti-semitic speech..........

    in Congress.

    Congress has the right to determine it's own rules, and they have a long history of decorum that all members must adhere to, such as respecting each other while on the floor of the house or senate, etc., etc., etc. (which MTG appears to be ignoring).

    Now, that legislation shouldn't apply to the rest of us, just their own house.

    I haven't read the bill, so I am not commenting until I'm familiar with it.
     
  25. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Weasel words are non substantive arguments
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    Your question has an assumed premise.

    Clear your premise, first, then ask the question.

    "Clear your premise", this means you can only ask a question in which the person to whom you direct your question has a meeting of mind with you on the premise, so the meeting of mind must be achieved first.

    In short, I do not engage questions with assumed premises, AKA 'the loaded question'. A fool might, but that would not be me.
     
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